Thijs Kinkhorst dixit: >On Tue, May 13, 2014 18:03, Russ Allbery wrote:
>> You're aware, right, that my primary background is with enterprise use, >> and I've been doing large-site systems administration for twenty years? >> >> systemd is a godsend with basically no downside for our enterprise use […] >I could not agree more. In our enterprise environment, I have no >expectation at all that systemd will cause us significant trouble on >upgrades. Our troubles have centered things like grub1 to grub2 or, Yes, there were issues with e.g. grub1 to grub2, but do you honestly think that sysadmins in a medium-sized company will cope with these? • no /etc/init.d/$foo (to tabcomplete, no less!) any more • journal • totally different ways to handle services • totally different ways to rescue a system that does not boot cleanly any more • the init system breaking init scripts hand-written by people who don’t really know what they’re doing, have not even heard of LSB, much less “units” I’m *positive* they won’t. bye, //mirabilos -- “When udev happened I wrote mdev.” -- Rob Landley in http://www.landley.net/notes.html#23-04-2014 Although I am proud to be an enemy of systemd, myself. --mirabilos And CVS does not need replacing. (git’s got different use cases.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pine.bsm.4.64l.1405131734280.23...@herc.mirbsd.org