On Sat, 11 Dec 2010 15:59:49 +0100, Marc Lehmann <schm...@schmorp.de> wrote:

> > I understand frustration, believe me, and I dont mean to suggest you are
> > wrong, but as an honest, nice person I would like to tell you that I
> > tune the fuck out when people go agro and start yelling.
> 
> Thats fine with me - since you are here, I assume nobody went agro and
> started yelling yet?

Nope. You did actaully go agro and started yelling, its hard to read
your message and think otherwise. The only reason I'm here because I
tuned out and didn't read most of your message.

> > right they are, using force to communicate, no matter how correct the
> > content may be, is reason for me to instantly discount the person who is
> > attempting to dominate through manipulative aggression a conversation.
> 
> Which means you will stay misinformed even though you could be well informed.

I'd rather be misinformed than abused. 

> > > Or maybe you think that pointing out facts that are inconvenient for
> > > debian or a maintainer is abusive. In that case, my condolences for your
> > > worldview - I deal with honest facts, and I have little sympathy for
> > > people who prefer bullshit and filthy lies just because it sounds more
> > > polite.
> > 
> > I've re-read the entire exchange, and I care, and am not too lazy to
> > check the facts, I give a shit and don't want to troll you when I say
> > that I feel like the maintainer was calm and measured, I did not see any
> > abuse.
> 
> I think any reasonable person can see the abuse. If you can't, this is a
> defect on your side - deal with it.

Yeah, you heaped it on, I saw it, so did everyone else. What I didn't
see is the abuse that you seem to be suffering from. 
 
> > sentence. In response, you made an entire armada of sailors blush,
> > impressive.
> 
> I feel flattered. In any case I didn't start to insult the maintainer, I
> merely pointed out facts.

haha, right, stay classy.
 
> If you think that pointing out facts is somehow wrong and merits insults
> and derogatory comments as response (as has happened), then, again, your
> are entitled to your opinion and I am entitled not to waste my time with
> people such as you.
> 
> > Its actually amazing to me to see you appeal to the facts in claiming
> > that the maintainer abused you, when the facts clearly show
> > otherwise.
> 
> You are kidding, right?

Nope.

> > I'm going to be nice and not call you a liar, but those are the honest
> > facts,
> 
> What a load of bullshit. Surely I was abusive, but if somebody insults me, he
> is better prepared for that reaction.

Take the dog for a walk and a few deep breaths, its better for your
health than blowing your top.

> You probably believe in staying silent and polite when being abused. Well, I
> don't, and this is a moral and ethical choice.

Again with the claim that you were abused... 

> The honest facts is that we were insulted first, and many times in the
> past, and nothing changed.
> 
> If you disagree, you are too stupid or lazy to see it.

[snip boring blowhard fuming]

have a nice day!



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