On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 15:59:38 +0100
Marc Lehmann <schm...@schmorp.de> wrote:

> On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 03:43:04PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit
> <madco...@madism.org> wrote:
> > If you want it to be built in the debian package properly, you have
> > to
> 
> No, this is against policy apparently - you need to update ncurses in
> debian, afaik. At least that's the reason why debian usually has
> outdated terminfo entries - applications are not allowed to install
> additional ones.

Huh ? if you want rxvt-unicode when ssh-ing to systems that haven't it
installed, yes it's better to make the terminfo entry be included in
ncurses which is pervasive (unlike urxvt). It has nothing to do with
Debian or its policy.

> > FWIW rxvt-unicode is unfriendly to package systems because it
> > doesn't install the terminfo database respecting the "prefix" env
> > variable
> 
> rxvt-unicode is of course not friendly or unfriendly. Don't accuse
> poor helpless softwrae progams (and, by extension, their maintainers)
> of beign unfriendly just because your packaging system is so antique
> and inept.

*laughs*

> > Marc: you may consider to upgrade your makefiles so that the make
> > install is
> 
> Sorry, Pierre, but take your idiotic insults somewhere else.

I fail to see where I insulted you, unless saying that your
build-system "install" target is buggy is an insult.

But I love you too.

[...]

> > *your* automake-fu that doesn't respect the "prefix" env
variable,
> > which is
> 
> We don't use any automake-fu anywhere, and the far majority of
> software doesn't support this, which is entirely a debian requirement.

When you use autotools, you have to respect DESTDIR (not prefix=
indeed). It has absolutely nothing to do with Debian, and since you
don't seem to believe me (and I'm sure you'll say that I'm an idiot
despite the pointers, but I couldn't care less), for the other
interested people, here are the pointers:
 - http://sourceware.org/automake/automake.html#DESTDIR
 - http://sourceware.org/automake/automake.html#Hard_002dCoded-Install-Paths
   which is *exactly* what you're doing: installing to a hard-coded (in
   tic) path.

It seems that you have no clue how packaging software works (which is
all fine, that's not something you're supposed to do as an upstream).
Maybe you should listen to people trying to improve your build system
to make everyone's life easier. If you don't want to, well, I couldn't
care less.
-- 
·O·  Pierre Habouzit
··O                                                madco...@debian.org
OOO                                                http://www.madism.org



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