Hi Christoph,

On Fri, Nov 15, 2024 at 11:15:35AM +0100, Christoph Berg wrote:
> So loosely speaking, the only package in the archive that has a
> legitimate use case to depend on logging (fail2ban) depends on
> something that journald does not provide.

I think fail2ban is a red herring in this discussion. It has multiple
backends one of which is called "systemd" and that happens to read the
journal. The default backend is auto. fail2ban rightfully suggests
system-log-daemon to prevent an installed daemon from being
automatically removed. Other than that, it's default is to just work
with journald.

Helmut

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