Re: Matthew Vernon > The maintainer is saying that "in all but unusual installations" a > system-log-daemon would be found installed alongside hippotat-server.
I'm inclined to say logging should be a system facility and nothing that a "normal" package should depend on. Then if I *don't* want logging, I could just remove that facility and even installing packages that would usually use logging wouldn't pull it back in. The expectation would be that debian-installer would set up logging in normal cases. Same for containers etc. Packages should only depend on logging (system-log-daemon or whatever incantation) if they specifically do something with logging, like fail2ban and the like. Christoph