Hello Steven Chamberlain!

On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 11:16:19PM +0100, Steven Chamberlain wrote:
> Andreas Henriksson wrote:
> > Wrote a long mail, scrapped it for this summary:
> 
> Though you say you have no time for kfreebsd, you've written many
> long emails complaining about it and that seems ironic and counter-
> productive all round.
> 
> Likewise I didn't want to waste much time arguing with you.  With
> https://bugs.debian.org/785796#45 you forgot to actually copy any
> kfreebsd maintainers on the mail, but I did find it anyway when
> looking into the FTBFS.  That and your other mails I've seen came over
> as quite offensive, and if I haven't replied to you that's why.

Personally I find this time around has been the absolutely most
productive attempt. People from the kfreebsd camp has actually
started to reply to mails! Thats a great step forward in my book!

The reason I've spent alot of time writing mails is because I want
to find someone with interest to take care of kfreebsd. I hope
you don't find that offensive. I'm asking around where to find
kfreebsd people (which actually replies), and people keep telling
me to just continue writing mails....

I hope you can see that while I've never cared for kfreebsd myself
it's been quite upsetting that I've not managed to get anyone
to even reply to mails. That's why I've given up on even CCing
debian-bsd. If we can turn this around, then my mood will be much
better!

If you feel offended then I'm sorry for that. Not sure you should
expect me to change all that much without someone else lenging
me a helping hand though. I hope you can see that me being stressed
to find time for things I actually want to get done, means I'm
not very receptive to having to spend time on things I care very
little about. Help is welcome!


> 
> I did meanwhile look to address this specific issue long-term via glibc,
> without needing changes to util-linux (https://bugs.debian.org/785796#65).
> It seems that won't work as Debian buildds don't support that feature
> yet and another issue blocks them from being upgraded.
> 
> > Anyone holding their breath waiting for me to do (further)
> > kfreebsd work should prepare themselves for dissapointment.
> 
> Guillem's workaround in https://bugs.debian.org/787042#5 would be
> sufficient to resolve the current situation with Debian sid.  I don't
> think it's suitable for upstreaming and should be only temporary.
> 
> He has meanwhile produced something else which may be more appropriate
> for upstreaming.  But I wouldn't necessarily have waited for that when
> you have one build-essential package FTBFS and another uninstallable.

Haven't found where the updated patch went yet (maybe I'm just too stressed).
I think I've managed to wrestle the BTS so that the *closed* bug no
longer should prevent testing migration. Will try to have a look
at patches as soon as I find some time after verifying testing migration
has completed. As already mentioned; Help welcome! My time is very
limited.

Regards,
Andreas Henriksson


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