Hello Guillem Jover!

Thanks for your interest in the kfreebsd port.

I've personally had to invest alot of time into keeping util-linux
usable on kfreebsd in the past, since noone else wanted to even discuss
it. I'm not willing to do that anymore. (Which might already be obvious?)

We need to solve the underlying problems rather then just repeatedly
attack symptoms. Someone interested in kfreebsd needs to learn from the
hurd porters on how to keep util-linux working on their platform. A
simple testbuild of upstream rc releases to make sure trivial patches
can be submitted and merged upstream before the final version is
released is needed. This is not hard, someone just needs to do it.

I'm not interested in maintaining kfreebsd patches and given past
experience that noone else (including you IIRC?) is ever willing to take
on forwarding their existing patches upstream. I'm going to tell people
to post their patches upstream. Many people seem to jump to conclusions
that they will have a problem when submitting hackish patches upstream,
but in reality upstream is very liberal when it comes to accepting
portability patches.

Please keep in mind that the current package in unstable is urgent to
get in and replace the current version in testing. (ie. don't delay it
with a NMU now.)

If you're not interested in solving the real issue and also maybe think
that this is not a patch for upstream, just a temporary way to avoid
building up the buildd queue, then please add your view on these bits to
this bug report and also include a description what/why the glibc update
is stalled and can not be hurried instead. I'd personally much rather
see the util-linux package continue to FTBFS on systems where it will
actually not work at runtime. (eg. when doing backports to stable.)
Where we currently stand I don't see why we would want to work around
this in util-linux instead of solving the issue in glibc as already
proposed. Please enlighten me.

(Sorry for maybe sounding harsh, but I'm very against going back to
where we came from just piling stuff on until we get stuck in a dead
end. I hope you can see that doing the work to get us unstuck was not a
fun task. I'm not going to repeat it so would ofcourse prefer we never
go anywhere near that state again. Upstream first, then I have no
problem cherry-picking... If we can't manage to work like that then I'll
just try to voice my "no" as much as possible in an attempt to get us
back on the right track.)

Regards,
Andreas Henriksson


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