On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 6:38 PM, Sergey B Kirpichev <skirpic...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 05:30:04PM +0100, Matthias Klumpp wrote: >> GNOME upstream won't really change > > Why? There are non-Linux GNOME users, for example. If the GNOME > developers don't care even about such popular distribution as Debian - > something is going wrong. And not with the Debian, for sure.
This has already been answered. GNOME advised all distributors 2 years ago. Nothing much happened. Meanwhile, we went ahead and relied more on systemd without really depending on systemd. You could implement the interfaces of the various bits without depending really on systemd. If after (seems it is going to be) 2.5 years you come back and say "we'll, we decided on this" while meanwhile we continued communicating our decisions and plans (we plan at least 6 months ahead), then, I find phrasings like "don't care even about such popular distributions as Debian" offensive. This as we provided ample opportunity to know our plans, to discuss, etc. Anyway, it seems you don't know what systemd provides and from your various responses it is pretty clear you cannot be bothered to investigate. "It works fine for me" is such an easy answer. Coming late to this bugreport and asking questions that have already been asked and answered many times before, yet feeling entitled to be able to talk about what others did: good luck with that, but as already mentioned to other people: I can provide the various emails that we reached out and did our best. I can also show you that all the questions you're asking have been asked and answered before. Maybe investigate a little bit before forming your opinion! Lastly, we have added *loads* and *loads* of new dependencies over the many years GNOME has existed. Regards, Olav -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org