Hi Osamu,
On 2014-01-15 10:03, Osamu Aoki wrote:
Hi,
If there is no ticket on this issue, I don't think it's worth
mentioning in the reference.
Maybe my last response was a bit to strong and rude. Excuse me.
Please make sure to propose tangible alternative if you make critical
comments Let's keep discussion constructive one.
I will replace NOTE: with the new text. (Done in git.)
Although `aptitude` is a very nice interactive tool which the author
mainly uses, you should know some cautionary facts
- The `aptitude` command is not recommended for the release-to-release
system upgrade of the `stable` Debian system after the new release.
- The use of "`apt-get dist-upgrade`" is recommended for it. See
http://bugs.debian.org/411280[Bug #411280].
- The `aptitude` command sometimes suggests mass package removals for
the system upgrade on the `testing` or `unstable` Debian system.
- This situation has frightened many system administrators. Don't
panic.
- This seems to be caused mostly by the version skew among packages
depended or recommended by a meta-package such as `gnome-core`.
- This can be resolved by selecting "Cancel pending actions" in the
`aptitude` command menu, existing it, and using "`apt-get
dist-upgrade`".
Osamu
Thank you very much. Minor problem with the new version: there should be something after
"facts" - either a period, or - IMO most appropriate - a colon. I personally do
not like that sentence much for 2 reasons:
* I would expect a document as official as the Debian reference to avoid...
referring... to its author.
* Calling aptitude "very nice" may create some exagerated expectations for
many new users who expect a nice tool to feature a GUI.
Your change clarifies a lot what the current version is trying to warn about
and makes it much simpler for me to express what I think is wrong with it:
* I see nothing wrong with the first fact, as phrased in the Git version.
* My problem is with the second fact:
o If this is a warning about a bug, we really should have a ticket on it before
writing user documentation about it. If this is not about a bug, speaking of a
"resol[ution]" seems misleading (and if one has to use apt-get in these
contexts, it does sound like a bug).
o If this problem is merely about unstable, I do not think the reference
should put such emphasis on it. I never used aptitude due to a number of
problems it had when I adopted Debian, but if I understand correctly what this
problem is about, I wouldn't think it affects testing.
--
Filipus Klutiero
http://www.philippecloutier.com
