Hi,
On 22.12.2013 22:33, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
On 2013-12-22 21:20:18 +0100, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote:
I have lightdm installed parallel to gdm3 and just switched to lightdm.
I had the same problem with both installed.
The problem is probably, that systemd is not PID 1.
I cannot reproduce the issue described in bug 732623, i.e. for me
all the four menu entries are there, independent of how often I
login/logout.
Did you try with twm?
I just tried twm, but twm just hangs and gives many of the following errors:
console-kit-daemon[2535]: (process:2928): GLib-CRITICAL **:
g_slice_set_config: assertion `sys_page_size == 0' failed
This same message comes (but only 6x) when using gnome-shell, but
gnome-shell starts.
Now, without logs from systemd, it's hard to tell the cause of
the difference.
What logs would you like to see?
If GNOME developers want to require systemd as the init system,
I don't see this as a reason not to add the dependency. Users
are not forced to install GNOME packages. And if they want GNOME,
they would have to accept the consequences about the init system.
The problem is the policy [1]:
"Essential is defined as the minimal set of functionality that must be
available and usable on the system at all times"
So removing an essential package is not really allowed by the policy.
There's the same problem with systemd-sysv itself. So, I don't think
it is against the policy. This point is more for tools handling
package installation and removal, and also to avoid two essential
packages conflicting each other.
I think it is not acceptable that the default Debian installer (for a
desktop system) does not install an essential package, which would be
the case, if gnome depended on systemd-sysv. Currently I think there is
no package that depends on systemd-sysv without alternative and
systemd-sysv is a package that actually does nothing else (as far as I
can tell), but replace sysvinit with a link to systemd.
Best regards,
Andreas
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