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On Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 10:59:51PM -0700, petro wrote:
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> >> That's true, but it is irrelevant. As long as insurance companies
> >> and hospitals are privately owned, putting a requirement like this
> >> one on them constitutes theft of their resources. If you want to
> >> have them engaging in charity, set up a charity and solicit money
> >> instead. ie, you can ask but you don't have permission to steal.
> >>
> >
> >I think the government has a right to do whatever it needs to do to maintain
>
> You don't think very well then.
>
Perhaps.
> >the health and well-being of its population. That is the purpose of
> >the government.
>
> Not in the United States of America it isn't.
>
>
Then what is the purpose of our government?
> >> Everybody dies of something. Some are likely to die sooner than
> >> others, due to accidents of birth or extreme lifestyle. That is
> >> reality. I persist in thinking that "freedom" means everybody
> >> gets to decide how to use his/her own talents and property and how
> >> to deal with his/her own deficiencies, genetic or otherwise.
> >
> >That is one way of defining freedom. I view freedom as the right of
> >people to live happy, productive lives. A discriminatory policy such
> >as this one would infringe on that freedom.
>
> You have been completely brainwashed.
>
> You have a no idea what a "right" is.
OK, then, what is a "right"?
> >
> >>
> >> I also persist in believing that, as a philosophical point, nobody
> >> who is *compelled* to do something can be considered a good person
> >> for doing it. I also feel that history has shown us that those who
> >> receive charity compelled from others have never appreciated the
> >> work and sacrifice that it represents. Compelled charity is
> >> morally and emotionally meaningless.
> >
> >Fine, so the insurance companies won't be considered "good." Who
> >cares? The point is, people who need medical care would be getting it.
>
> The point is that you are *forcing* me to part with my
> productive labor to support someone else.
>
> This makes me unhappy. Under your beliefs, you can't do this,
> as I have a right to be happy.
Not if it hurts someone else. Serial killers often get off on killing
people. However, this hurts others, so it is outweighed.
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