"Oellermann, A. (Adam)" wrote:
> > I think the romans did. they finally lost the fight and state, but
> it
> > lasted for quite a long time, didn't it? and survived a whole
> bunch of
> > crooks.
>
> The Romans had more than one phase of government. Firstly, the
> Roman Republic, secondly the Roman Empire, then the split Roman
> Empire, and eventually just Byzantium. These forms of government
> were quite different, as were the extant cultures. In each case,
I'm talking of the republic, of course. one might argue whether or not
the early empire counts.
> though,
> quality of life was purchased for the Romans by ruthless subjugation
> and enslavement of the majority of the known world's population.
pretty much the same it is today, isn't it? :)
> Probably not a good system to try and emulate, what with all these
> damned liberals around whining about human rights and such ;-)
:))
