Despite everything I have done for 9 years, there is one leak that happens once a year, and it comes out the light fixture over my bunk. You have to sail two well-heeled tacks after a wet winter before it appears, and then it pours out. I have no idea where it comes from, I have replaced all the hatches and vents in the whole boat, and that leak persists. Well, it gives me an excuse to have another drink and cogitate.
Jim Watts Paradigm Shift C&C 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 17 March 2015 at 17:30, Martin DeYoung via CnC-List < [email protected]> wrote: > > I mentioned that C&C had drilled the hardware mounting holes, > chamfered the edges and used butyl on our model and that it proved to be > effective. He said that with his hardware installation it was *just > straight-thru holes* (not sure about sealant..) that leaked like a sieve. > > > > It was the straight thru holes that created most of Calypso’s water > intrusion issues, along with various failed sealants and bedding > compounds. The butyl tape sealed, original Bruckmann’s installed hardware > showed much less water intrusion even after 44 years. > > > > Calypso’s co-owner has drilled/chamfered/filled with epoxy over 300 > holes. He is now our “in-house” expert on upgrading thru deck hardware > holes. Another area to watch is where C&C ran 12 volt wiring between the > deck’s fiberglass layers (thru channels in the balsa). Water that gets > into the balsa from a nearby mounting hole will travel great distances > along the wire run. We have eliminated most of the original C&C un-tinned > wiring and sealed up what we could of what is left. > > > > Calypso’s next owner is going to appreciate all the extra sealing/epoxy > work hardware mounting holes we have done to preserve this old boat. > > > > Martin DeYoung > > Calypso > > 1971 C&C 43 > > Seattle > > > [image: Description: Description: Description: > cid:D1BF9853-22F7-47FB-86F2-4115CE0BAF2F] > > > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Dave > Godwin via CnC-List > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 17, 2015 2:52 PM > *To:* Glen Eddie; [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Awl grip deck and re-bed toe rail of 35MkI > > > > Glen, > > > > I’d echo what Martin said about re-tightening the toe-rail bolts. That may > be all you need to do. On my boat the butyl is always in “play.” In the > summer I will get dollops of it dropping down into the interior which I > just clean up. I have no leaks in my toe-rail with the original fitment. As > part of my refit I will go around and re-secure all the bolts. Not a > terrible difficult job. > > > > I would also say that as someone who is 5 years into a 2 year refit you > may be surprised at how little repair work you need to do although on the > older boats may be wet. As an example, I ran across a friend a few weeks > back who had either hull 1 or 2 of the C&C 40. He and his wife raced it and > then spent winters in the Bahamas on it. The entire deck was wet and I > believe that they got C&C to replace the entire deck. When I mentioned that > I was finding that there was very little wet core on my model we compared > notes. I mentioned that C&C had drilled the hardware mounting holes, > chamfered the edges and used butyl on our model and that it proved to be > effective. He said that with his hardware installation it was just > straight-thru holes (not sure about sealant..) that leaked like a sieve. > > > > I just got through have my hull painted (yesterday!) and originally the > perfectionist painter wanted to pull the rub-rail. Until he saw that it was > part of the toe-rail structure. We left it as is. > > > > Anyway, I am going to be doing a complete deck repair and repaint this > Spring and Summer and would be glad to provide any observations that might > help. > > > > Best, > > Dave Godwin > > 1982 C&C 37 - Ronin > Reedville - Chesapeake Bay > > Ronin’s Overdue Refit <http://roninrebuild.blogspot.com/> > > > > On Mar 17, 2015, at 5:37 PM, Glen Eddie via CnC-List < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > The butle (sp?) has extruded out to the point that it needs to be re > bedded any thoughts are welcome. > > > > *From: *Martin DeYoung > > *Sent: *Tuesday, March 17, 2015 5:32 PM > > *To: *Glen Eddie; [email protected] > > *Subject: *RE: Awl grip deck and re-bed toe rail of 35MkI > > > > Glen, > > > > Why are you pulling the toe rail? On many C&Cs there is no balsa for the > first few inches inward from the toe rail. Other listers have mentioned > they stopped small toe rail leaks by tightening the bolts and squeezing the > butyl tape a little tighter. > > > > We the co-owners of Calypso are 1.5 years into a 6 month project repairing > many issues with the deck including wet/failed balsa core. We are doing > the work ourselves however I see the wisdom of having professional > assistance if the $$ work out. Let me know if you have any balsa related > questions. > > > > Martin DeYoung > > Calypso > > 1971 C&C 43 > > Seattle > > > <image001.png> > > > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:[email protected] > <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Glen Eddie via CnC-List > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 17, 2015 1:42 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Stus-List Awl grip deck and re-bed toe rail of 35MkI > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > I am planning to keep Freya IV out of the water this summer to redo the > toe rail and get rid of the wet core on the deck. I understand this is a > big project and I have professional help on core repair and the awl grip > job to get it done. That said, I would greatly appreciate assistance on > re-bedding the toe rail and any issues that anyone has come across in > prepping the deck for priming/painting. I have given myself until next May > to get everything done, although I want the toe rail re-bedded and the deck > painted by this fall at the latest. I have other projects to complete over > the winter-----and no I will not be replacing the Atomic 4. > > > > I love my 35 mk I. Hopefully this will bring her to showroom condition. > Thanks in advance. > > > > *Glen Eddie* > > Tel: 416-777-5357 > > Fax: 1-888-812-2557 > > *Torkin Manes LLP* > Barristers & Solicitors > > This email message, and any attachments, is intended only for the named > recipient(s) above and may contain content that is privileged, confidential > and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. 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