And yes, free non-unicode fonts that support any range of unicode, such as a language or script, should come with Calligra.
On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 7:35 PM, Samiur Rahman <samiu...@gmail.com> wrote: > What I see is that if it's a practice to include all free unicode fonts in > an office suite, in order to use them commonly, all office suites, even > operating systems, must come with them. But it's a good practice to start > on. Usually, we presume that the user needs only characters for Western > European and operating systems and office suites come only with fonts for > that range of unicode. What I suggest is to include all free unicode fonts > in Calligra, to cater to users of all scripts and languages. > > Thanks. > > On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 7:27 PM, Jaroslaw Staniek <stan...@kde.org> wrote: > >> On 3 July 2016 at 01:11, Samiur Rahman <samiu...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Jaroslaw wrote: "If so, as such place for its implementation isn't at >> > Calligra level but at a computer operating system's level, even above Qt >> > itself." >> > >> > You can select to type in your keyboard, by selecting your keyboard in >> the >> > OS, but usually you need to buy or maybe possibly download a font for >> your >> > language or script. The benefit of a "unicode mode" as an input mode in >> the >> > office app is that you don't need to buy or download that font. >> > >> > Camilla wrote: "we have a dialog that allows you to enter specific >> charactes >> > from any unicode range" >> > >> > But you can't actually "type" using those characters that you can >> choose as >> > special characters. >> >> What special characters do you mean? >> >> >> "Users should select an unicode range, such as Greek or Cyrillic," >> >> To avoid mixing separate things: input methods, unicode representation >> and file formats, >> please let me mention that: >> >> - language and font is an attribute of character in ODF and MSOOXML >> and older MS formats, all that is specified and not subject to change >> (and especially a change here instead of change in input method would >> be the least likely approved) >> >> - the modes of input is separate from application; applications >> receive ready to interpret logical input events prepared by the input >> method based on lower level events (key, voice, whatever); for example >> there were times when I've been using Hangul for testing of input >> methods; given input method just composed entire syllables out of >> atomic key strokes - apps have never "seen" separate key strokes, only >> syllables, each having own number in the Unicode standard. This is why >> I think that whatever you design like two boxes of input, this belongs >> to the outside of application, to the input method system >> >> - fonts: separate topic again, their *cost* and so on - it can be all >> addressed by working on libre implementation of fonts that given >> nations/cultures need; that's a proper level of activity >> >> (if I understand correctly) >> >> Finally I think an animation or mockup of your proposed method would >> increase chances to find more interest. >> >> >> > Camille also wrote: "yes it is true that the font used to show the text >> has >> > to support the script. But a few free unicode fonts do exist already." >> > >> > A few unicode fonts do exist but only Arial Unicode MS commonly comes >> with >> > Windows, I don't know what Linux makes available. The best way to use >> them, >> > as I see it, is to implement the "unicode mode" of input in the office >> > applications, with the two boxes "choose unicodfoe range" and "choose >> > unicode font," in which you first specify which range you are typing >> it, and >> > then choose from a number of fonts that support that range. >> > >> > Thanks. >> > >> > On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 6:40 PM, Camilla Boemann <c...@boemann.dk> wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi >> >> >> >> I don't understand this either. >> >> >> >> 1) all text in calligra is unicode >> >> 2) we have a dialog that allows you to enter specific charactes from >> any >> >> unicode range >> >> 3) yes it is true that the font used to show the text has to support >> the >> >> script. But a few free unicode fonts do exist already >> >> >> >> On Saturday 02 July 2016 15:13:03 Huxshathra Theudanaz wrote: >> >> > A distinction between two types of input, a "type mode" and an >> "unicode >> >> > mode" in all Calligra applications. In "unicode mode," there should >> be >> >> > two >> >> > boxes, one that asks to "choose unicodfoe range" and the other that >> asks >> >> > to >> >> > "choose unicode font." Users should select an unicode range, such as >> >> > Greek >> >> > or Cyrillic, and then choose from a number of unicode fonts, which >> >> > should >> >> > come with Calligra, that support that range. >> >> > >> >> > "Type mode" and "unicode mode" are different even now. If someone >> wants >> >> > to >> >> > type in non-Western European characters, they usually type in "type >> >> > mode" >> >> > using fonts they buy. Another option is to type in an unicode font >> such >> >> > as >> >> > Arial Unicode MS, and the other unicode fonts are obscure. As one >> plus, >> >> > "unicode mode" of input will allow these typists to type in their >> >> > language >> >> > or script without having at buy extra fonts. >> >> > >> >> > Plus word processors and email clients and apps usually do >> distinguish >> >> > between "type" and "unicode." This feature will fully allow someone >> to >> >> > type, create, and share documents in unicode. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> calligra-devel mailing list >> >> calligra-devel@kde.org >> >> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/calligra-devel >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > calligra-devel mailing list >> > calligra-devel@kde.org >> > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/calligra-devel >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> regards, Jaroslaw Staniek >> >> KDE: >> : A world-wide network of software engineers, artists, writers, >> translators >> : and facilitators committed to Free Software development - >> http://kde.org >> Calligra Suite: >> : A graphic art and office suite - http://calligra.org >> Kexi: >> : A visual database apps builder - http://calligra.org/kexi >> Qt Certified Specialist: >> : http://www.linkedin.com/in/jstaniek >> _______________________________________________ >> calligra-devel mailing list >> calligra-devel@kde.org >> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/calligra-devel >> > >
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