Ken Moffat wrote:
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 12:38:14PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
Ken Moffat wrote:
Do you use TeX ? The only testing I do is with my test files, and
it took me long enough to get those to work 8) I noticed that some
biber scripts use ruby, but my minimal test of (binary) biber works
without ruby, so I think that my test coverage is quite minimal.
I've used TeX fairly extensively in the past, but not recently. However TeX
is not livetex. TeX only takes a source file (whatever.tex usually) and
creates a dvi file. That is one program written by Knuth and works very
well. Other programs are then needed like dvips.
The current version is 3.1415926. That is, of course, pi. Knuth adds one
digit for every change. I think I was using 3.14159 in 1993 so that tells
you how much it has changed.
TeX is extremely powerful, but the syntax takes a bit of effort to
understand. It's not our role to do extensive testing. If a minimal
program works, then problems need to be addressed upstream.
-- Bruce
The point I was trying to make, unsuccessfully, is that TeX Live [
the full package, not just the original TeX program itself ] is an
enormous package. And if we build it wrongly, the problem is our
fault.
We have already found that the "straight" build we do does not
install xindy or biber (which are part of the binary). I managed to
build xindy, but at that time I had no way of testing it. When I
eventually managed to do that, my from-source version did not work.
I fixed that problem this week (not in the book, needs two extra
packages, I think we are too close to 7.6, particularly when biber
from source is still untested), and found out how to minimally
use biber, which is why I started this thread.
BTW - if we move to from-source-only, with the 1.7GB texmf tarball,
will that be a space problem for anduin ?
Possibly. I've got 4.2G free now on the sources partition. The whole
disk is only 165G. I've got a small 5G partition unused and 31G free on
another partition that could be used. I also have another 5G of
obsolete lfs isos (last update 2007) that could be removed.
I do not think I would put that much on the master files server at
osuosl.org. We have 52G there now so that would be a significant
increase, especially if we ended up posting multiple versions like we
have with all the other packages.
I would prefer to leave the install-tl-unx section in the book for user
convenience.
Perhaps we should just point to the upstream texmf tarball in this case.
-- Bruce
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