These things don't actually immerse the computers in sea water.. they use the 
surrounding water as an "infinite cold sink" to dissipate the heat generated by 
the computers, which operate in air. 

You really do NOT want to run boards immersed in coolant - yeah, there's folks 
doing it at HPC scale,  but they're typically doing something in a volume 
constrained environment (trying to get 100s of servers in a single rack) or 
some other environment: high altitude aircraft, where the air is thin; or a 
very dusty/dirty environment, where you need a "sealed box".  I designed a 
small cluster designed to operate in a dusty environment that was basically a 
"spray cooling" system in an aluminum case.  There was a small pump that picked 
up the inert fluid, sprayed it everywhere inside the box, including the boards 
and box sides, providing a simple(ish) thermal transfer between board and 
external case.  It wasn't great, but at least it cooled the whole boards.  The 
typical "liquid CPU cooler" only cools that one chip and depends on airflow for 
the rest, and you can't move enough heat from board to box shell with air.  
Maybe helium or hydrogen would work <grin>

Whatever the coolant, it leaks, it oozes, it gets places you don't want it to 
go. And serviceability is challenging. You need to pull the "wet" boards out, 
or you need to connect and disconnect fluid connectors, etc.  If you're in an 
environment where you can manage that (or are forced into it by necessity), 
then you can do it.

A good "intermediate" scheme is liquid/air heat exchangers in close proximity 
to the electronics, and I believe that's what the "subsea datacenter" scheme 
uses. 



Jim Lux
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Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 10:27 PM
To: Gerald Henriksen <ghenr...@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Beowulf] More about those underwater data centers

Probably a stupid question here,

What is the advantage of using salty sea water lets say over for example 
mineral oil? I have seen on you tube these guys showing that a pc will still 
run in a fish tank and all components submerged in mineral oil? 
Yes it will be messier to change components but would the use of mineral oil be 
more efficient?

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