The open source electric software website is http://www.staticfreesoft.com and 
also https://www.gnu.org/software/electric/   

I have used electric and it has a lot of very powerful features, and seems more 
stable and streamlined than the commercial products from cadence.

Thanks,
Scott


Scott Hamilton
Solution Architect II
Atos Big Data & Security - NAO
(573)324-7124
scott.hamil...@atos.net


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From: Beowulf [mailto:beowulf-boun...@beowulf.org] On Behalf Of Lukasz Salwinski
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 11:52 AM
To: beowulf@beowulf.org
Subject: Re: [Beowulf] Mobos for portable use

On 01/20/2017 09:14 AM, Hamilton, Scott wrote:
> I am not sure how far they have come, but the open source Electric design 
> suite was working on MPI based parallelization of their simulation and 
> fabrication processes.  It might be worth checking into.
>
> Scott
>
> Scott Hamilton
> Solution Architect II
> Atos Big Data & Security - NAO
> (573)324-7124
> scott.hamil...@atos.net

uh.. do you have a less generic pointer ? all I can find is software for house 
wiring design ;o)

there's also:
  https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/project/project-catapult/

lukasz

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Beowulf [mailto:beowulf-boun...@beowulf.org] On Behalf Of Lux, 
> Jim (337C)
> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 10:31 AM
> To: Lukasz Salwinski; beowulf@beowulf.org
> Subject: Re: [Beowulf] Mobos for portable use
>
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> On 1/20/17, 8:07 AM, "Beowulf on behalf of Lukasz Salwinski"
> <beowulf-boun...@beowulf.org on behalf of luk...@mbi.ucla.edu> wrote:
>
>> On 01/19/2017 09:11 PM, Lux, Jim (337C) wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/19/17, 4:29 PM, "Beowulf on behalf of Lukasz Salwinski"
>>> <beowulf-boun...@beowulf.org on behalf of luk...@mbi.ucla.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 01/19/2017 02:09 PM, Lux, Jim (337C) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Beowulf [mailto:beowulf-boun...@beowulf.org] On Behalf Of 
>>>>> Andrew M.A. Cater
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 12:49 PM
>>>>> To: beowulf@beowulf.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Beowulf] Mobos for portable use
>>>> [...]
>>>>> (I just found that at least a while ago, Xilinx supported clusters 
>>>>> for some of  their design tools.. Since right now the design I'm 
>>>>> working with takes an hour to synthesize (on a single machine), 
>>>>> I'm going to look further - it has been a real rate limiter in the 
>>>>> lab, because it makes the test, new design, load, test cycle a lot
>>>>> longer.)
>>>>
>>>> it looks like current (vivado 16.4) synthesis program hasn't been 
>>>> parallelized - it's strictly single threaded and so uses just one 
>>>> core... :o/  I've recently benchmarked a few i5 & i7 workstations
>>>> - there seem to be very little differences (maybe 10-20%) between 
>>>> CPUs released over last ~4-5 years :o/
>>>>
>>>> lukasz
>>>
>>> yeah, on further investigation, the parallelized part is the 
>>> iterative ³try lots of options² which isn¹t much use.
>>>
>>> I¹ve got the design, I don¹t need to optimize a parameter.
>>>
>>
>> to my knowledge, parts of place/route use more than one core. I'm 
>> guessing it might be because these were, from the very beginning, 
>> series of independent MonteCarlo-like runs that were easy to parallelize.
>>
>
> Makes sense.. way back in the 80s, their earliest tools used simulated 
> annealing for place and route (and it took all night on a 80286 based 
> computer, for a VERY small FPGA like the XC2064, back when folks were looking 
> to maybe, sometime, get down to micron feature sizes). but schemes like that 
> are very amenable to parallelization.  They could easily run multiple threads 
> without having to spend a lot of software development time.  Splitting it 
> into multiple machines (i.e. a cluster) is a lot harder, especially if their 
> internal software architecture wasn't set up for that.
>
> Surprising though.. given the number of people doing designs, and how long it 
> takes to run for not very complex designs on the latest parts (something that 
> would fill the largest Virtex 7 must take days), you'd think that they'd work 
> on it.  time is very much money.
>
> Maybe that's where folks like synopsys come in. You pay the big bucks for the 
> tools and it runs on that cluster.
>
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