Jim,

Thanks for clearing that up. I somehow knew you'd be the one to provide
the answer. ;)

Lux, James P wrote:
> ...On Thu, 9 Apr 2009, Prentice Bisbal wrote:
> 
>> I disagree with the sonic barrier wall analaogy. Is it that clearly
>> technical barrier the slowed down jet research, or did the nuisance of
>> sonic booms to people on the ground just make supersonic R&D less
>> convenient? I've heard that supersonic travel over land is restricted in
>> the US.
> 
> 
> .....Yes, indeed, supersonic flight over land in the US is restricted. 
> Exceptions for military training flights in designated areas (e.g. desert 
> wasteland) and things like shuttle landings (characteristic double sonic boom 
> from leading and trailing shock waves.. the shuttle is big and fast).  Kind 
> of put paid to useful Concorde flights except from New York and DC (not to 
> mention that Concorde was just plain old LOUD on the ground)
> 
> ....Sonic booms are also used as a tactical weapon of sorts in, e.g., Gaza.
> 
> 
> Actually, historically, it was absolutely the technical barrier, which
> was profound.  Pilots in WWII not infrequently went into a dive, and of
> course diving one can approach the sound barrier quite easily.
> 
> They died.  With very few exceptions, and they were lucky ones.  One of
> two things killed them.  At near-supersonic speeds, the equations that
> govern airflow and lift completely and nonlinearly change form.  All of
> a sudden, the pilots discovered that they were unable to actually move
> the yoke of their aircraft against the enormous forces that locked them
> in, and they discovered that the lift they were counting on to pull them
> out of the dive (in particular the lift generated by the aircraft tail)
> suddenly disappeared.  A few clever pilots thought to put on their
> airbrakes, slowed to subsonic speeds, and managed to pull out.  The rest
> didn't.  The other problem that plagued the deliberate attempts to break
> the sound barrier were harmonics that appeared and were nonlinearly
> amplified as the aircraft approached the barrier.\
> 
> ...I don't know that they're harmonics, per se, but just the phenomenon of 
> aerodynamic flutter, which was very poorly understood and is basically a 
> resonance thing. (the nonlinearities in the state equation for air doesn't 
> help with understanding, of course).  Flutter can occur at lower speeds, too 
> (it's what sets Vne on some small planes), but at lower speeds, how to deal 
> with it is easier to solve empirically AND it's testable by gradually 
> creeping up on it and waiting for the evil moment.  When you get close to 
> sonic speed (and actually, it's localized sonic speed over part of the 
> airframe that's troubling), then you get very fast changes.  One needs to be 
> a manly man test pilot.
> 
> BTW, demonstrating sonic flow is easy.  Your run of the mill air nozzle is 
> probably in "choked flow" with a shock wave in the throat.  If you have a 
> usual shop air compressor, and the air is damp (bad for the tank, but good 
> for the demo), and vent it through something like an 1/8" hole, you'll 
> probably see a nice Mach cone, as the rapid change in pressure causes the 
> water to condense.  An old style non-OSHA safe air blowing nozzle does 
> nicely, so does a 1/4" or 1/2" ball valve feeding a pipe cap with a hole 
> drilled in it.
> 


-- 
Prentice
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