As I recall, the AHPCRC (in Minneapolis) had one of these "submit via web gui" systems up and running in the mid-late 90's. As I was on site, I never had training on the system, but I remember there being buttons to replicate almost the entire shell.
I never heard their motivation for developing the system. Other list members (Richard Walsh?) might have better memory of the system. NT Moore On 10/26/07, Bill Bryce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In response to the question: > > > PBS, Cluster Resources, and LSF all have some type of web portal where > you > can do some of these things. Of course they are commercial and > sometimes > > not always the most flexible. > > Do they expose some sort of API as well? > > There is the DRMAA api that SGE, PBS and yes even for LSF > (http://www.fedstage.com/wiki/FedStage_DRMAA_for_LSF). That API is used > to create portals, and other submission/management tools. > > There is also the HPC Profile Working Group within the OGF that is > moving forward with other interesting projects such as HPCP (High > Performance Computing Profile), BES (Basic Execution Service), and JSDL > (Job Submission Description Language) this all ties into OGSA (they will > be demonstrating this stuff at SC07) a BES implementation is available > at: http://sourceforge.net/projects/bespp/ > > DRMAA has been around longer and is now supported by all major batch > systems, the OGF stuff is pretty new - but interesting. > > Bill. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Kozin, I (Igor) > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 7:31 AM > To: Mark Hahn; Jeffrey B. Layton > Cc: Beowulf List > Subject: RE: [Beowulf] Web interfaces for yer cluster. > > > > really? is it that the can't scrape up enough unix-able people > > to keep their clusters busy? (I would want to know why - for > instance, > > do they build clusters that are too small to be interesting, or > somehow > > hard to use? note that it doesn't take much *nix literacy at all to > > get along great - mainly it's an issue of whether the user is offended > > by anything non-mouse-driven.) > > The idea behind this strategy is that if you make your HPC centre > accessible to a large and diverse user community you will be less > susceptible to (minor) problems in your financial support stream since > you broaden up your options. > > > there have been many systems which aim to reduce real apps to basic > > <button>compute!</button> interface. I've never quite understood why > > they're so seductive, since that level of automation is mainly > justified > > if you really do wind up pressing the button very frequently. > > There are a number of scientific applications with rather well developed > GUIs which are really useful and portable. The next obvious thing to do > is to integrate somehow the GUI with a job manager. I'm not talking here > about interactive steering where such a link is vital. I'm talking about > an interface where you compose your job, submit it and view the result, > and I'm not sure whether a web interface is ideal for this. Some have > done this already, others are still thinking but it would be still worth > the effort to come up with a common API for such programs to use. > > > PBS, Cluster Resources, and LSF all have some type of web portal where > you > can do some of these things. Of course they are commercial and > sometimes > > not always the most flexible. > > Do they expose some sort of API as well? > > _______________________________________________ > Beowulf mailing list, Beowulf@beowulf.org > To change your subscription (digest mode or unsubscribe) visit > http://www.beowulf.org/mailman/listinfo/beowulf > > _______________________________________________ > Beowulf mailing list, Beowulf@beowulf.org > To change your subscription (digest mode or unsubscribe) visit > http://www.beowulf.org/mailman/listinfo/beowulf > -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Nathan Moore Assistant Professor, Physics Winona State University AIM: nmoorewsu - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
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