In response to the question: > PBS, Cluster Resources, and LSF all have some type of web portal where you > can do some of these things. Of course they are commercial and sometimes > not always the most flexible.
Do they expose some sort of API as well? There is the DRMAA api that SGE, PBS and yes even for LSF (http://www.fedstage.com/wiki/FedStage_DRMAA_for_LSF). That API is used to create portals, and other submission/management tools. There is also the HPC Profile Working Group within the OGF that is moving forward with other interesting projects such as HPCP (High Performance Computing Profile), BES (Basic Execution Service), and JSDL (Job Submission Description Language) this all ties into OGSA (they will be demonstrating this stuff at SC07) a BES implementation is available at: http://sourceforge.net/projects/bespp/ DRMAA has been around longer and is now supported by all major batch systems, the OGF stuff is pretty new - but interesting. Bill. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kozin, I (Igor) Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 7:31 AM To: Mark Hahn; Jeffrey B. Layton Cc: Beowulf List Subject: RE: [Beowulf] Web interfaces for yer cluster. > really? is it that the can't scrape up enough unix-able people > to keep their clusters busy? (I would want to know why - for instance, > do they build clusters that are too small to be interesting, or somehow > hard to use? note that it doesn't take much *nix literacy at all to > get along great - mainly it's an issue of whether the user is offended > by anything non-mouse-driven.) The idea behind this strategy is that if you make your HPC centre accessible to a large and diverse user community you will be less susceptible to (minor) problems in your financial support stream since you broaden up your options. > there have been many systems which aim to reduce real apps to basic > <button>compute!</button> interface. I've never quite understood why > they're so seductive, since that level of automation is mainly justified > if you really do wind up pressing the button very frequently. There are a number of scientific applications with rather well developed GUIs which are really useful and portable. The next obvious thing to do is to integrate somehow the GUI with a job manager. I'm not talking here about interactive steering where such a link is vital. I'm talking about an interface where you compose your job, submit it and view the result, and I'm not sure whether a web interface is ideal for this. Some have done this already, others are still thinking but it would be still worth the effort to come up with a common API for such programs to use. > PBS, Cluster Resources, and LSF all have some type of web portal where you > can do some of these things. Of course they are commercial and sometimes > not always the most flexible. Do they expose some sort of API as well? _______________________________________________ Beowulf mailing list, Beowulf@beowulf.org To change your subscription (digest mode or unsubscribe) visit http://www.beowulf.org/mailman/listinfo/beowulf _______________________________________________ Beowulf mailing list, Beowulf@beowulf.org To change your subscription (digest mode or unsubscribe) visit http://www.beowulf.org/mailman/listinfo/beowulf
