At Thu, 28 Jan 2021 13:05:31 -0800 (PST) [email protected] wrote:
> > I'm prototyping on a pocketbeagle, but how to scale up for production or > ~1000 units is unclear. I can buy pocketbeagle retail for $25, but the > Octavia SIP lists on Digikey at $36 and I have to but 500 parts to get that > price . So it seems like integrating a pocketbeagle into my product would > be easier and more cost effective. The only bit I don't know is how to > solder down a pocketbeagle onto a larger board with automation, any ideas? I have soldered male headers (pins) on the bottom of a PocketBeagle and installed female headers (sockets) on the "base board". The PocketBeagle is not soldered to the base board, but is mounted in a pair of sockets. Have a look at the pictures here: https://www.pcbway.com/project/shareproject/Pocket_Beagle_Quad_StallMotor_w_Sense_base_board__includes_LCC_CAN_and_power_supply.html And the design on GitHub: https://github.com/RobertPHeller/RPi-RRCircuits/tree/master/PocketBeagleQuadSMCSense > > -R > > On Wednesday, January 27, 2021 at 7:06:58 AM UTC-8 [email protected] > wrote: > > > Maybe you can't buy a ready build board, but Octavio offers design files > > for the Red with the C-SIP version of OSD335x ->link > > <https://octavosystems.com/files/osd3358-sm-red-c-sip-eagle-files/> > > > > acheesehead schrieb am Mittwoch, 27. Januar 2021 um 15:42:56 UTC+1: > > > >> The board is loosely based upon the Red board. Added a second Ethernet. > >> The Red is a good starting point. I have a Red that we used to evaluate. I > >> also have a Blue. Not a bad board, but uses funky connectors. I do not > >> know > >> of a dev board based upon the cSIP. > >> > >> On Wednesday, January 27, 2021 at 7:38:24 AM UTC-7 acheesehead wrote: > >> > >>> Sorry. Can't share our design. Proprietary. No thermal issues as of yet, > >>> but we are not running intensive software. I do plan on inspecting using > >>> a > >>> thermal camera in real time sometime soon. > >>> > >>> On Tuesday, January 26, 2021 at 3:56:29 PM UTC-7 [email protected] wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hi > >>>> > >>>> Are you able to share the high level design of the board. How do you > >>>> deal with the heat issue > >>>> > >>>> Cheers > >>>> > >>>> frank > >>>> > >>>> On Wednesday, January 27, 2021 at 1:47:39 AM UTC+11 acheesehead wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> We have designed a board based upon the Octavo Systems cSIP, which is > >>>>> a step beyond the SIP. They added eMMC, EEPROM and a MEMS oscillator. > >>>>> Many > >>>>> layout issues go away using their solution. I have worked extensively > >>>>> with > >>>>> the Octavo folks. Very nice people. What I understand is that the > >>>>> company > >>>>> was founded by ex-TI people. They provide free design review services > >>>>> that > >>>>> uncovered problems with our design. They say they will manage > >>>>> obsolescence > >>>>> of the components inside of the cSIP. > >>>>> > >>>>> On Tuesday, January 26, 2021 at 6:18:24 AM UTC-7 [email protected] > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> At Tue, 26 Jan 2021 05:07:26 -0800 (PST) [email protected] > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > Thank you Robert! > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > I forgot to mention that I'm looking at the BBW, but I think your > >>>>>> answer > >>>>>> > refers to this one as well. > >>>>>> > What about the availability between both solutions? My intended > >>>>>> development > >>>>>> > should be for industry, where they expect very very long product > >>>>>> > availability. Would a SIP be better over single components, or does > >>>>>> Octavio > >>>>>> > face the same problems when any part gets end of life status? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I don't really know. You'll have to talk to the people at TI about > >>>>>> that. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > Is the image really completely the same? No diff config in uboot or > >>>>>> > somewhere else? Not easy to compare, because the pinout for both > >>>>>> ICs is > >>>>>> > different. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> The stock Beagle image works without mods on either. I don't know if > >>>>>> there is > >>>>>> a difference in the boot loader or if the uboot srcript in the chip > >>>>>> EEPPROM is > >>>>>> different. If there is, there is suitable firmware included on the > >>>>>> image. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > [email protected] schrieb am Dienstag, 26. Januar 2021 um > >>>>>> 13:54:41 UTC+1: > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > At Mon, 25 Jan 2021 23:15:36 -0800 (PST) > >>>>>> [email protected] wrote: > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > Hello everybody, > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > I'm searching the right hardware for an embedded project. One > >>>>>> of the > >>>>>> > > Beagle > >>>>>> > > > variants is likely to be the right base to start with. Some > >>>>>> point I > >>>>>> > > > couldn't figure out: > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > Why are some boards using the TI AM335x like BBB and others use > >>>>>> the same > >>>>>> > > > core, but wrapped in a Octavio SIP. I know that it already > >>>>>> contains a > >>>>>> > > bunch > >>>>>> > > > of components board designers place next to the AM335x. But > >>>>>> what are the > >>>>>> > > > main reasons to choose one or the other? Price? Design > >>>>>> complexity? Is it > >>>>>> > > > fully software compatible on image level? > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > The PocketBeagle uses the Octavio SIP and the Debian images for > >>>>>> the BBB > >>>>>> > > work > >>>>>> > > just fine on the PocketBeagle, with no compatiblity issues. I > >>>>>> think the > >>>>>> > > Octavio SIP allows for a more compact board because all of the > >>>>>> support > >>>>>> > > components are incorporated into a single package. This makes for > >>>>>> a > >>>>>> > > smaller > >>>>>> > > (and cheaper) PCB. > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > -- > >>>>>> > > Robert Heller -- Cell: 413-658-7953 <(413)%20658-7953> > >>>>>> <(413)%20658-7953> GV: 978-633-5364 <(978)%20633-5364> > >>>>>> > > <(978)%20633-5364> > >>>>>> > > Deepwoods Software -- Custom Software Services > >>>>>> > > http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Linux Administration Services > >>>>>> > > [email protected] -- Webhosting Services > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> Robert Heller -- Cell: 413-658-7953 <(413)%20658-7953> GV: > >>>>>> 978-633-5364 <(978)%20633-5364> > >>>>>> Deepwoods Software -- Custom Software Services > >>>>>> http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Linux Administration Services > >>>>>> [email protected] -- Webhosting Services > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > -- Robert Heller -- Cell: 413-658-7953 GV: 978-633-5364 Deepwoods Software -- Custom Software Services http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Linux Administration Services [email protected] -- Webhosting Services -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BeagleBoard" group. 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