I'm prototyping on a pocketbeagle, but how to scale up for production or ~1000 units is unclear. I can buy pocketbeagle retail for $25, but the Octavia SIP lists on Digikey at $36 and I have to but 500 parts to get that price . So it seems like integrating a pocketbeagle into my product would be easier and more cost effective. The only bit I don't know is how to solder down a pocketbeagle onto a larger board with automation, any ideas?
-R On Wednesday, January 27, 2021 at 7:06:58 AM UTC-8 [email protected] wrote: > Maybe you can't buy a ready build board, but Octavio offers design files > for the Red with the C-SIP version of OSD335x ->link > <https://octavosystems.com/files/osd3358-sm-red-c-sip-eagle-files/> > > acheesehead schrieb am Mittwoch, 27. Januar 2021 um 15:42:56 UTC+1: > >> The board is loosely based upon the Red board. Added a second Ethernet. >> The Red is a good starting point. I have a Red that we used to evaluate. I >> also have a Blue. Not a bad board, but uses funky connectors. I do not know >> of a dev board based upon the cSIP. >> >> On Wednesday, January 27, 2021 at 7:38:24 AM UTC-7 acheesehead wrote: >> >>> Sorry. Can't share our design. Proprietary. No thermal issues as of yet, >>> but we are not running intensive software. I do plan on inspecting using a >>> thermal camera in real time sometime soon. >>> >>> On Tuesday, January 26, 2021 at 3:56:29 PM UTC-7 [email protected] wrote: >>> >>>> Hi >>>> >>>> Are you able to share the high level design of the board. How do you >>>> deal with the heat issue >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> frank >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, January 27, 2021 at 1:47:39 AM UTC+11 acheesehead wrote: >>>> >>>>> We have designed a board based upon the Octavo Systems cSIP, which is >>>>> a step beyond the SIP. They added eMMC, EEPROM and a MEMS oscillator. >>>>> Many >>>>> layout issues go away using their solution. I have worked extensively >>>>> with >>>>> the Octavo folks. Very nice people. What I understand is that the company >>>>> was founded by ex-TI people. They provide free design review services >>>>> that >>>>> uncovered problems with our design. They say they will manage >>>>> obsolescence >>>>> of the components inside of the cSIP. >>>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, January 26, 2021 at 6:18:24 AM UTC-7 [email protected] >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> At Tue, 26 Jan 2021 05:07:26 -0800 (PST) [email protected] >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Thank you Robert! >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I forgot to mention that I'm looking at the BBW, but I think your >>>>>> answer >>>>>> > refers to this one as well. >>>>>> > What about the availability between both solutions? My intended >>>>>> development >>>>>> > should be for industry, where they expect very very long product >>>>>> > availability. Would a SIP be better over single components, or does >>>>>> Octavio >>>>>> > face the same problems when any part gets end of life status? >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't really know. You'll have to talk to the people at TI about >>>>>> that. >>>>>> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Is the image really completely the same? No diff config in uboot or >>>>>> > somewhere else? Not easy to compare, because the pinout for both >>>>>> ICs is >>>>>> > different. >>>>>> >>>>>> The stock Beagle image works without mods on either. I don't know if >>>>>> there is >>>>>> a difference in the boot loader or if the uboot srcript in the chip >>>>>> EEPPROM is >>>>>> different. If there is, there is suitable firmware included on the >>>>>> image. >>>>>> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > [email protected] schrieb am Dienstag, 26. Januar 2021 um >>>>>> 13:54:41 UTC+1: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > At Mon, 25 Jan 2021 23:15:36 -0800 (PST) >>>>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > Hello everybody, >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > I'm searching the right hardware for an embedded project. One >>>>>> of the >>>>>> > > Beagle >>>>>> > > > variants is likely to be the right base to start with. Some >>>>>> point I >>>>>> > > > couldn't figure out: >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > Why are some boards using the TI AM335x like BBB and others use >>>>>> the same >>>>>> > > > core, but wrapped in a Octavio SIP. I know that it already >>>>>> contains a >>>>>> > > bunch >>>>>> > > > of components board designers place next to the AM335x. But >>>>>> what are the >>>>>> > > > main reasons to choose one or the other? Price? Design >>>>>> complexity? Is it >>>>>> > > > fully software compatible on image level? >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > The PocketBeagle uses the Octavio SIP and the Debian images for >>>>>> the BBB >>>>>> > > work >>>>>> > > just fine on the PocketBeagle, with no compatiblity issues. I >>>>>> think the >>>>>> > > Octavio SIP allows for a more compact board because all of the >>>>>> support >>>>>> > > components are incorporated into a single package. This makes for >>>>>> a >>>>>> > > smaller >>>>>> > > (and cheaper) PCB. >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > -- >>>>>> > > Robert Heller -- Cell: 413-658-7953 <(413)%20658-7953> >>>>>> <(413)%20658-7953> GV: 978-633-5364 <(978)%20633-5364> >>>>>> > > <(978)%20633-5364> >>>>>> > > Deepwoods Software -- Custom Software Services >>>>>> > > http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Linux Administration Services >>>>>> > > [email protected] -- Webhosting Services >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Robert Heller -- Cell: 413-658-7953 <(413)%20658-7953> GV: >>>>>> 978-633-5364 <(978)%20633-5364> >>>>>> Deepwoods Software -- Custom Software Services >>>>>> http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Linux Administration Services >>>>>> [email protected] -- Webhosting Services >>>>>> >>>>>> -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BeagleBoard" group. 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