Wow, Beiber. This is as close a dissection of the MAX-737 issue as I have
read or heard anywhere. Sounds criminal to have not used redundancy in the
sensors, especially in civil aviation with so many lives at stake on a
trip. Human complacency takes over, I guess, when something  works so well
for so long. The lifting torque you mention was of the yaw kind or roll
kind?

On Sat, Jul 6, 2019, 12:28 AM Dennis Lee Bieber <[email protected]>
wrote:

> On Fri, 5 Jul 2019 16:41:40 +0000 (UTC), "'Mark Lazarewicz' via
> BeagleBoard" <[email protected]>
> declaimed the following:
>
> >It's shoddy psuedo engineer's like that the caused people to be Killed on
> Boeing 737 max software outsourced to sub standard engineeers I know I
> worked with them lots of nodding and smiling no substance.
>
>         From what I've read, some test bed software, and maybe some display
> software was outsourced. NOT the flight management software -- which has
> been produced by GE Aviation (formerly Smiths Aerospace, nee Lear-Siegler)
> for quite some time on the 737. {I supported the "BootROM" of the 737
> flight computers for four years -- BootROM runs the memory/processor
> self-checks, and determines which application (dataloader, flight
> management, etc.) is to be started based upon external sensors (no
> dataloader if the wheels are not on ground <G>). The flight software for
> the boxes was produced in the cubicle farm on the other side of the
> building from mine.}
>
>         The gist I have for this fiasco is that shoddy requirements were in
> play -- defining the MCAS system to be a "transparent" addition to the
> software (one description I've read describes MCAS as being meant to
> compensate for the different lift characteristics of the MAX when angle of
> attack varies. The MAX engines are so large that they are mounted much more
> forward from the wing, and higher -- as a result, when not directly aimed
> into the air flow (as in climbs), the engine nacelle created a lifting
> torque in front of the wing. MCAS was supposed to counter that torque so
> pilots "feet" the plane behaving the same as non-MAX 737 models. However,
> MCAS relied upon single sensor (and apparently did not have left/right
> redundancy) -- the multi-sensor configuration was "optional" on the order
> form.
>
>         Because MCAS was supposed to be "transparent", pilots were not
> supposed
> to need updated training. It was also added to the flight software in a way
> to minimize how much of the flight software (most of which has been flying
> for decades on 737 models) had to be re-certified...
>
>
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