The call for Papers should be happening within a week, so if Joe and Rod could talk and create a panel and submit, that would be great.
[Ironically I was trying to do the same thing last year, but I tend to be a bit busy around conference time J]. Daniel From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joe Martin D'Souza Sent: March 28, 2012 10:49 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: DevStudio Tool ** Yes a Panel is a great idea.. Where you as an audience can ask the how to type questions and we as a panel of users who are more friendlier with the Studio can answer if there is an answer to it and share our views.. Maybe we could as a panel share our experiences first, which may answer majority of the how to questions, and then have a open question answer session in the end.. Joe From: Susan Palmer <mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 10:39 PM Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general To: [email protected] Subject: Re: DevStudio Tool ** Joe ... maybe a panel situation would be more comfortable for you. I think having a projection of the tool and then showing what you're talking about would be great. Especially when answering questions. Skip the slides, we want the real tool in action. I know the wwrug team likes 'presentations' but maybe this would be an option for this type of group. I don't think you'd even have to prepare more than a couple points already mentioned here (choose mine please) and the rest will generate from the crowd. On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Joe Martin D'Souza <[email protected]> wrote: ** "Importing and exporting workflow can chew up memory fast. The default heap settings are next to nothing and you need a minimum of 2Gig to run Devstudio. Admin tool could get by with 1Gig or less. " Have you increased the heap on the import ini configuration file? There are more files than just the development studio's ini file where you can adjust your heap size. I hate 2 and 3 too.. experienced those things myself as well where after what seems like you selected the field it just disappears and the 2nd time you select it, it sticks... So yea Rod actually managed to point 2 things that I find to be clumsy too.. But the advantages outweigh these so these few quirks just seem to be overshadowed.. Thank you for pointing these up and I think if BMC is watching, they ought to do something about these things.. Joe From: Rod Harris <mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 10:22 PM Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general To: [email protected] Subject: Re: DevStudio Tool ** Hi Dan, Joe and everyone, I've been using Dev Studio since 7.5 first came out and I would never consider going back to the old admin tool. Whilst you certainly need a high resolution screen and you should go 64bit and up your heap from the default there are plenty of huge upsides in dev studio. My favourites are: 1. The Outline View and the ability to sort fields by ID or by label or by name to find the field you need quickly. 2. Once you find the field the show relationships feature will enable you to drill in to the right workflow quickly and to be confident that you have captured all of the impacts. 3. If you need to bulk change a whole bunch of fields, active links or anything else you can usually select the objects and use the properties page to do a bulk update. 4. Autocomplete, built in help and syntax checking are nice especially now that the bugs seem to have been removed. There were some nasty ones in the early 7.5 releases The bad things 1. Importing and exporting workflow can chew up memory fast. The default heap settings are next to nothing and you need a minimum of 2Gig to run Devstudio. Admin tool could get by with 1Gig or less. 2. I miss the ease of moving around a bunch of fields using the arrow keys. This feature is there but it doesn't seem to work as well. There also seems to be some bugs with group moving/resizing fields in devstudio still 3. Sometimes I select fields to add to a setfields or push fields and they don't take. I have to select the field again. This bug has been around since day 1 and I'm not sure it has been fixed. So on the whole I love devstudio. Fix the bugs, extend the syntax help to the run process commands, improve the memory utilisation and I'll be even happier. I'm loving my new laptop with the full HD screen and 8 Gig too. Rod Harris On 29 March 2012 09:59, Joe Martin D'Souza <[email protected]> wrote: Yea I like that one too.. And that you can switch between an AL list and a Filter list without waiting for a coffee break or a cigarette break to get your session back - especially since I have stopped drinking coffee and reduced my smoking to almost nothing! -----Original Message----- From: bullcreek.com <http://bullcreek.com/> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 9:28 PM Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general To: [email protected] Subject: Re: DevStudio Tool One of my favorite features is the ability to "tear off" the tabs (Relationship, Forms, Filters, Properties etc.) and stick them on other windows as well as stacking forms or workflow side by side to compare them. Phil Bautista President / CEO Bull Creek Data Corporation www.bullcreek.com <http://www.bullcreek.com/> Remedy Approved Consultant (RAC) http://www.wwrug.com/contact_phil.html 512-731-0304 -----Original message----- From: Guillaume Rheault [email protected] Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 19:03:49 -0400 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: DevStudio Tool BTW, IMHO, to me the 3 killer features of DevStudio are the - Undo-Redo - Ability to type (or paste) field names in the set fields or push fields m> appings (along with the auto-complete feature) - performance is really awesome compared to DevStudio (specially working wi> th ITSM whaich has a ton of workflow) the record relationships feature is very nice too, the wayrelationships are> displayed, etc so that would be the 4th. Guillaume ________________________________________ From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [[email protected]] > on behalf of Guillaume Rheault [[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 6:58 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: DevStudio Tool I've been working with DevStudio since it first came out in 7.5. Learning curve was fairly steep at the beginning but definitely worth the t> ime and effort. I would never ever go back to the old Admin tool, even if that was a possib> ility. If I had to be involved in a project with ARS 7.1 or older and I had to do > a lot of development, I would put all my energy to convince management to u> pgrade to at least 7.5 in order to be able to use DevStudio, so I'd do all > the development with DevStudio: I hope this sums how I feel about DevStudio> and the old admin tool. . I truly believe that once you are comfortable wi> th DevStudio, you will be much more productive (if you already are an exper> ienced developer, that is). what would I change about Dev Studio? What really annoyed me in DevStudio 7> .5 was the "over-grouping with the parentheses" in qualifications in join f> orms, active links, etc, but that has been fixed. I don't know if it was 7> .6.3 that fixed or not, since I jumped from DevStudio 7.5 to 7.6.4 SP2, and> 7.64 SP2 does not "over-group" with parentheses, at least not how 7.5 did.> So to answer your question with DevStudio 7.6.4 SP2, what would I change? I> can't think of anything right now.... Guillaume ________________________________________ From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [[email protected]] > on behalf of Carin Sinclair [[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 4:24 PM To: [email protected] Subject: DevStudio Tool Hello there all, We would like to have your input on a Question. How happy are you with DevStudio 7.5-7.6 to do customizations? Do you miss the Admintool? Are you satisfied with the DevStudio functionality, usability and reliabili> ty. If there was one thing you would change about DevStudio, what would it be?> Thank you Carin _attend WWRUG12 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ _______________________________________________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug12 www.wwrug12.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are"
