Submit it to the program team Joe !  I like your enthusiasm, I think you'll
do a great job explaining everything in a friendly atmosphere a panel will
provide.

On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Joe Martin D'Souza <[email protected]>wrote:

> **
>  Yes a Panel is a great idea.. Where you as an audience can ask the how
> to type questions and we as a panel of users who are more friendlier with
> the Studio can answer if there is an answer to it and share our views..
>
> Maybe we could as a panel share our experiences first, which may answer
> majority of the how to questions, and then have a open question answer
> session in the end..
>
> Joe
>
>  *From:* Susan Palmer <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 28, 2012 10:39 PM
> *Newsgroups:* public.remedy.arsystem.general
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: DevStudio Tool
>
> ** Joe ... maybe a panel situation would be more comfortable for you.  I
> think having a projection of the tool and then showing what you're talking
> about would be great.  Especially when answering questions.  Skip the
> slides, we want the real tool in action.  I know the wwrug team likes
> 'presentations' but maybe this would be an option for this type of group.
>
>
> I don't think you'd even have to prepare more than a couple points already
> mentioned here (choose mine please) and the rest will generate from the
> crowd.
>
> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Joe Martin D'Souza <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>> “Importing and exporting workflow can chew up memory fast. The default
>> heap settings are next to nothing and you need a minimum of 2Gig to run
>> Devstudio. Admin tool could get by with 1Gig or less. “
>> Have you increased the heap on the import ini configuration file? There
>> are more files than just the development studio’s ini file where you can
>> adjust your heap size.
>>
>> I hate 2 and 3 too.. experienced those things myself as well where after
>> what seems like you selected the field it just disappears and the 2nd time
>> you select it, it sticks...
>>
>> So yea Rod actually managed to point 2 things that I find to be clumsy
>> too.. But the advantages outweigh these so these few quirks just seem to be
>> overshadowed.. Thank you for pointing these up and I think if BMC is
>> watching, they ought to do something about these things..
>>
>> Joe
>>
>>  *From:* Rod Harris <[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 28, 2012 10:22 PM
>>  *Newsgroups:* public.remedy.arsystem.general
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: DevStudio Tool
>>
>>  **
>> Hi Dan, Joe and everyone,
>>
>> I've been using Dev Studio since 7.5 first came out and I would never
>> consider going back to the old admin tool. Whilst you certainly need a high
>> resolution screen  and you should go 64bit and up your heap from the
>> default there are plenty of huge upsides in dev studio.
>>
>> My favourites are:
>>
>>
>>    1. The *Outline View *and the ability to sort fields by ID or by
>>    label or by name to find the field you need quickly.
>>    2. Once you find the field the *show relationships* feature will
>>    enable you to drill in to the right workflow quickly and to be confident
>>    that you have captured all of the impacts.
>>    3. If you need to *bulk change* a whole bunch of fields, active links
>>    or anything else you can usually select the objects and use the properties
>>    page to do a bulk update.
>>    4. *Autocomplete*, built in help and syntax checking are nice
>>    especially now that the bugs seem to have been removed. There were some
>>    nasty ones in the early 7.5 releases
>>
>> The bad things
>>
>>    1. Importing and exporting workflow can chew up memory fast. The
>>    default heap settings are next to nothing and you need a minimum of 2Gig 
>> to
>>    run Devstudio. Admin tool could get by with 1Gig or less.
>>    2. I miss the ease of moving around a bunch of fields using the arrow
>>    keys. This feature is there but it doesn't seem to work as well. There 
>> also
>>    seems to be some bugs with group moving/resizing fields in devstudio still
>>    3. Sometimes I select fields to add to a setfields or push fields and
>>    they don't take. I have to select the field again. This bug has been 
>> around
>>    since day 1 and I'm not sure it has been fixed.
>>
>> So on the whole I love devstudio. Fix the bugs, extend the syntax help to
>> the run process commands, improve the memory utilisation and I'll be even
>> happier. I'm loving my new laptop with the full HD screen and 8 Gig too.
>>
>> Rod Harris
>>
>>
>>
>>  On 29 March 2012 09:59, Joe Martin D'Souza <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Yea I like that one too.. And that you can switch between an AL list and
>>> a Filter list without waiting for a coffee break or a cigarette break to
>>> get your session back - especially since I have stopped drinking coffee and
>>> reduced my smoking to almost nothing!
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: bullcreek.com
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 9:28 PM Newsgroups:
>>> public.remedy.arsystem.general
>>>  To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: DevStudio Tool
>>>
>>> One of my favorite features is the ability to "tear off" the tabs
>>> (Relationship, Forms, Filters, Properties etc.) and stick them on other
>>> windows as well as stacking forms or workflow side by side to compare them.
>>>
>>> Phil Bautista
>>> President / CEO
>>> Bull Creek Data Corporation
>>> www.bullcreek.com
>>> Remedy Approved Consultant (RAC)
>>> http://www.wwrug.com/contact_**phil.html<http://www.wwrug.com/contact_phil.html>
>>> 512-731-0304
>>> -----Original message-----
>>> From: Guillaume Rheault [email protected]
>>> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 19:03:49 -0400
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: DevStudio Tool
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> BTW, IMHO, to me the 3 killer features of DevStudio are the
>>>>
>>>> - Undo-Redo
>>>> - Ability to type (or paste) field names in the set fields or push
>>>> fields m> appings (along with the auto-complete feature)
>>>> - performance is really awesome compared to DevStudio (specially
>>>> working wi> th ITSM whaich has a ton of workflow)
>>>>
>>>> the record relationships feature is very nice too, the wayrelationships
>>>> are>  displayed, etc so that would be the 4th.
>>>>
>>>> Guillaume
>>>> ______________________________**__________
>>>> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
>>>> [email protected]]  > on behalf of Guillaume Rheault [
>>>> [email protected]]
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 6:58 PM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: DevStudio Tool
>>>>
>>>> I've been working with DevStudio since it first came out in 7.5.
>>>> Learning curve was fairly steep at the beginning but definitely worth
>>>> the t> ime and effort.
>>>>
>>>> I would never ever go back to the old Admin tool, even if that was a
>>>> possib> ility.
>>>> If I had to be involved in a project with ARS 7.1 or older and I had to
>>>> do  > a lot of development, I would put all my energy to convince
>>>> management to u> pgrade to at least 7.5 in order to be able to use
>>>> DevStudio, so I'd do all > the development with DevStudio: I hope this sums
>>>> how I feel about DevStudio>  and the old admin tool. . I truly believe that
>>>> once you are comfortable wi> th DevStudio, you will be much more productive
>>>> (if you already are an exper> ienced developer, that is).
>>>>
>>>> what would I change about Dev Studio? What really annoyed me in
>>>> DevStudio 7> .5 was the "over-grouping with the parentheses" in
>>>> qualifications in join f> orms, active links, etc, but that has been fixed.
>>>> I don't know  if it was 7> .6.3 that fixed or not, since I jumped from
>>>> DevStudio 7.5 to 7.6.4 SP2, and>  7.64 SP2 does not "over-group" with
>>>> parentheses, at least not how 7.5 did.>
>>>>
>>>> So to answer your question with DevStudio 7.6.4 SP2, what would I
>>>> change? I>  can't think of anything right now....
>>>>
>>>> Guillaume
>>>>
>>>> ______________________________**__________
>>>> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
>>>> [email protected]]  > on behalf of Carin Sinclair [
>>>> [email protected]]
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 4:24 PM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: DevStudio Tool
>>>>
>>>> Hello there all,
>>>>
>>>> We would like to have your input on a Question.
>>>>
>>>> How happy are you with  DevStudio 7.5-7.6 to do customizations?
>>>> Do you miss the Admintool?
>>>> Are you satisfied with the DevStudio functionality, usability and
>>>> reliabili> ty.
>>>>
>>>> If there was one thing you would change about DevStudio, what would it
>>>> be?>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you
>>>> Carin
>>>>
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