Joe ... maybe a panel situation would be more comfortable for you. I think having a projection of the tool and then showing what you're talking about would be great. Especially when answering questions. Skip the slides, we want the real tool in action. I know the wwrug team likes 'presentations' but maybe this would be an option for this type of group.
I don't think you'd even have to prepare more than a couple points already mentioned here (choose mine please) and the rest will generate from the crowd. On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Joe Martin D'Souza <[email protected]>wrote: > ** > > “Importing and exporting workflow can chew up memory fast. The default > heap settings are next to nothing and you need a minimum of 2Gig to run > Devstudio. Admin tool could get by with 1Gig or less. “ > Have you increased the heap on the import ini configuration file? There > are more files than just the development studio’s ini file where you can > adjust your heap size. > > I hate 2 and 3 too.. experienced those things myself as well where after > what seems like you selected the field it just disappears and the 2nd time > you select it, it sticks... > > So yea Rod actually managed to point 2 things that I find to be clumsy > too.. But the advantages outweigh these so these few quirks just seem to be > overshadowed.. Thank you for pointing these up and I think if BMC is > watching, they ought to do something about these things.. > > Joe > > *From:* Rod Harris <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 28, 2012 10:22 PM > *Newsgroups:* public.remedy.arsystem.general > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: DevStudio Tool > > ** > Hi Dan, Joe and everyone, > > I've been using Dev Studio since 7.5 first came out and I would never > consider going back to the old admin tool. Whilst you certainly need a high > resolution screen and you should go 64bit and up your heap from the > default there are plenty of huge upsides in dev studio. > > My favourites are: > > > 1. The *Outline View *and the ability to sort fields by ID or by label > or by name to find the field you need quickly. > 2. Once you find the field the *show relationships* feature will > enable you to drill in to the right workflow quickly and to be confident > that you have captured all of the impacts. > 3. If you need to *bulk change* a whole bunch of fields, active links > or anything else you can usually select the objects and use the properties > page to do a bulk update. > 4. *Autocomplete*, built in help and syntax checking are nice > especially now that the bugs seem to have been removed. There were some > nasty ones in the early 7.5 releases > > The bad things > > 1. Importing and exporting workflow can chew up memory fast. The > default heap settings are next to nothing and you need a minimum of 2Gig to > run Devstudio. Admin tool could get by with 1Gig or less. > 2. I miss the ease of moving around a bunch of fields using the arrow > keys. This feature is there but it doesn't seem to work as well. There also > seems to be some bugs with group moving/resizing fields in devstudio still > 3. Sometimes I select fields to add to a setfields or push fields and > they don't take. I have to select the field again. This bug has been around > since day 1 and I'm not sure it has been fixed. > > So on the whole I love devstudio. Fix the bugs, extend the syntax help to > the run process commands, improve the memory utilisation and I'll be even > happier. I'm loving my new laptop with the full HD screen and 8 Gig too. > > Rod Harris > > > > On 29 March 2012 09:59, Joe Martin D'Souza <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> Yea I like that one too.. And that you can switch between an AL list and >> a Filter list without waiting for a coffee break or a cigarette break to >> get your session back - especially since I have stopped drinking coffee and >> reduced my smoking to almost nothing! >> >> -----Original Message----- From: bullcreek.com >> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 9:28 PM Newsgroups: >> public.remedy.arsystem.general >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: DevStudio Tool >> >> One of my favorite features is the ability to "tear off" the tabs >> (Relationship, Forms, Filters, Properties etc.) and stick them on other >> windows as well as stacking forms or workflow side by side to compare them. >> >> Phil Bautista >> President / CEO >> Bull Creek Data Corporation >> www.bullcreek.com >> Remedy Approved Consultant (RAC) >> http://www.wwrug.com/contact_**phil.html<http://www.wwrug.com/contact_phil.html> >> 512-731-0304 >> -----Original message----- >> From: Guillaume Rheault [email protected] >> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 19:03:49 -0400 >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: DevStudio Tool >> >> >> >>> BTW, IMHO, to me the 3 killer features of DevStudio are the >>> >>> - Undo-Redo >>> - Ability to type (or paste) field names in the set fields or push >>> fields m> appings (along with the auto-complete feature) >>> - performance is really awesome compared to DevStudio (specially working >>> wi> th ITSM whaich has a ton of workflow) >>> >>> the record relationships feature is very nice too, the wayrelationships >>> are> displayed, etc so that would be the 4th. >>> >>> Guillaume >>> ______________________________**__________ >>> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [ >>> [email protected]] > on behalf of Guillaume Rheault [ >>> [email protected]] >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 6:58 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: DevStudio Tool >>> >>> I've been working with DevStudio since it first came out in 7.5. >>> Learning curve was fairly steep at the beginning but definitely worth >>> the t> ime and effort. >>> >>> I would never ever go back to the old Admin tool, even if that was a >>> possib> ility. >>> If I had to be involved in a project with ARS 7.1 or older and I had to >>> do > a lot of development, I would put all my energy to convince >>> management to u> pgrade to at least 7.5 in order to be able to use >>> DevStudio, so I'd do all > the development with DevStudio: I hope this sums >>> how I feel about DevStudio> and the old admin tool. . I truly believe that >>> once you are comfortable wi> th DevStudio, you will be much more productive >>> (if you already are an exper> ienced developer, that is). >>> >>> what would I change about Dev Studio? What really annoyed me in >>> DevStudio 7> .5 was the "over-grouping with the parentheses" in >>> qualifications in join f> orms, active links, etc, but that has been fixed. >>> I don't know if it was 7> .6.3 that fixed or not, since I jumped from >>> DevStudio 7.5 to 7.6.4 SP2, and> 7.64 SP2 does not "over-group" with >>> parentheses, at least not how 7.5 did.> >>> >>> So to answer your question with DevStudio 7.6.4 SP2, what would I >>> change? I> can't think of anything right now.... >>> >>> Guillaume >>> >>> ______________________________**__________ >>> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [ >>> [email protected]] > on behalf of Carin Sinclair [[email protected] >>> ] >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 4:24 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: DevStudio Tool >>> >>> Hello there all, >>> >>> We would like to have your input on a Question. >>> >>> How happy are you with DevStudio 7.5-7.6 to do customizations? >>> Do you miss the Admintool? >>> Are you satisfied with the DevStudio functionality, usability and >>> reliabili> ty. >>> >>> If there was one thing you would change about DevStudio, what would it >>> be?> >>> >>> >>> Thank you >>> Carin >>> >> _attend WWRUG12 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ _______________________________________________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug12 www.wwrug12.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are"
