Bing,

I don't know how long you have worked with Remedy so I may be telling you 
things you already know, but here's my slanted pro-Remedy vision of history, 
which will explain why people are raising these concerns.

Basically, the golden age of Remedy was when Remedy Corporation existed.  You 
had great support staff, the system was very stable as a development platform, 
and there was a great community.  Then, Peregrine bought Remedy, and 
essentially they messed up the existing support infrastructure and staff to 
where you couldn't get help.  Peregrine introduced bugs into the product, and 
essentially it appeared as if their goal was to kill off Remedy so they could 
stifle competition with their inferior products.

However, the dotcom bust came, and it turned out that Peregrine had been 
involved with potentially fraudulent business practices, and ended up selling 
off Remedy to BMC after nearly completely killing off the product.  Then, BMC 
turned things around, and while many of us feel that things were better when 
Remedy was an independent company, BMC has done an infinitely better job than 
Peregrine did with improving the Remedy product and building it back up to be a 
top of the line tool.  Many of us are not necessarily happy with the focus on 
ITSM rather than AR System development, but that is more of a sign of what 
BMC's vision based on today's market is rather than BMC having bad intentions 
with the product.

As a result of what Peregrine was accused of, as well as the direction the 
company took Remedy in, there is a lot of hostility amongst the Remedy 
community towards anything to do with Peregrine.  In fact, it's been rumored 
that some of the ARSList regulars go out on weekends spraying DDT in peregrine 
falcon nesting grounds to maintain their status as an endangered species.  Ok 
that last part isn't true, but I think we all have a valid reason to mistrust 
rather than respect anyone that was involved with Peregrine at a high level.

Thanks,

Shawn Pierson

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Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 10:25 AM
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Subject: Re: Service-now.com

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Just read the link and came away with a different impression.

John Moores co-founded BMC in 1980, was a venture capital investor in Peregrine 
in 1981, and co-founded JMI Equity in 1992.  JMI is one of multiple venture 
capital groups investing in Service-Now.  John Moores is not a principal at 
Service Now.

I've also meet with Fred Luddy, co-founder of Service-Now, via telephone and 
visited Service-Now's headquarters in Solano Beach.  (And they are indeed right 
ON the beach.)  If you think Fred is flying high and scooping up tons of other 
people's money, think again.  Visit their facility and see how modestly the 
company operates.

My hat goes off to Fred and his brother for doing what American business does 
best -- take an idea, find investors, start a company, create jobs, then work 
like hell to make it a success.  I believe they are deserving of our respect, 
not our criticism.

-- Bing

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Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 7:28 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Service-now.com
** That last link from John shows that Moores was also accused of selling $630M 
in his own Peregrine stock before the company's financial house of cards was 
exposed, causing the stock to plummet to a few cents.  Despite owning over 60% 
of the company's stock, he denied having any active role in, or even being 
really aware of, any of the company's criminal activities, and the SEC couldn't 
prove him wrong, so he got to keep it.  Hope it keeps him warm at night.  I 
prefer having a clean conscience, which money cannot buy.

Good to know who I don't want to do business with, and any company with Luddy 
and Moores at the top would not be on that list.  Fool me once...

Rick
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 10:12 AM, John Sundberg 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
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Also -- a major funder of Service-now is John Moores
(M in BMC)
http://www.jmiequity.com/portfolio/

Also was Peregrine guy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Moores_(baseball)<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Moores_%28baseball%29>


And -- interesting:
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/02_41/b3803060.htm







-John



On Mar 23, 2010, at 8:46 AM, Guillaume Rheault wrote:


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Great point, it only takes one rotten apple to spoil the basket.
I don't think he'll conduct himself as Mother Teresa!!

-Guillaume
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What scares me.. the CEO of ServiceNow, Fred Luddy, was the CTO of Peregrine!

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