John,

 

It is much easier to create a DSO form for each integration point. This
form would become part of both systems. Changes should only be made to
this form on both sides. You would then push data from your main form to
the DSO form to the other DSO form where the other system would push the
data to their main form. There are special DSO fields that will let you
know when transfers succeed or fail. If you look at the DSO
configuration book that will give you an idea.

 

HTH,

 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Reiser, John J
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 1:53 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Integrating with another company's ARSystem

 

Roger, Rick and Robert,

 

Thanks for the replies.

Yes it is vague.

Yes it will be a challenge.

Especially since the other system is a US Navy system and I am sure
security will be tight.

 

Right now this is "pie-in-the-sky" but that never stopped them before;^>

 

 

Robert, I have a question about your DSO statement. I thought the idea
behind DSO was also to allow you to connect to a different form
structure and still pass relevant data.

We are purchasing DSO for another project and they use ITSM, we use our
home grown Helpdesk. We just need to pass Ticket ID's as reference data
as well as problem summary and user info. This was suggested to us by
the Developers on the ITSM site.

 

Thanks,

John J. Reiser
Software Development Analyst
Remedy Administrator/Developer
Lockheed Martin - MS2
The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long.
Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. - paraphrased
by me

 

 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Cook
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 11:31 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Integrating with another company's ARSystem

** Excellent point about DSO.  I think the key here is being able to
establish either a secure gateway between the two AR servers or a common
middle ground (which means server, forms, etc.).  Since you have zero
dollars to spend on hardware, it looks like you should be investigating
how to tunnel from one AR server to the other in some way, like Robert
said, using some common data forms, assuming that the data is common
enough to make that possible.  Do you know anything about the other AR
System and it's applications?  If not, now would be a great time to
start finding out, so that you have the answers before anyone asks more
questions and defines unrealistic expectations for you.

Or, you could bypass AR System altogether, and create SQL views into the
DBs, and view them from a web page or something.  Like I said, until you
are given a better definition of what they want, it's really premature
to design the solution for it.

>From a business perspective, there are two tacks you can take:
1)  Tell them that "Yes, it's probably possible", then toss it back to
them for a better definition of what they want.
2)  Define the rules yourself by telling them the means by which this
can most likely be done, and then ask them to fit what they want into
that.

Rick

On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 8:11 AM, Robert Molenda
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

** 

I agree with Rick... Could be easy - could be next to impossible...

 

DSO is OK provided that the systems are configured the same - same
fields - same configuration data - same-same...

 

Web Services is probably the best method to do "Ticket Passing" which is
what I have to assume you are referring to between the two companies.
Works fine over a secure vpn tunnel as well. Only issue is
host-name-resolution...

 

You must create a common "interface" that will be used on 'both sides'
to send / receive the data and then custom workflow on each end to
'store the data' in the appropriate form + format + field definitions.

 

More 'details' would be helpful - you could actually get away with not
even transfering the tickets - however using web-services to create a
remote view into the other system, etc. All depends upon the
requirements.

 

HTH

 

Robert Molenda

On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 7:50 AM, Rick Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

** John, "integration" is, as you said, pretty vague.  Perhaps once you
have a better idea of its scale and definition, we might be able to give
better answers.  Could be anything from very simple to
you-gotta-be-kidding. 



Rick 

 

On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 7:40 AM, Reiser, John J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

Hello Listers,

Current configuration
ARS 6.3 Patch 014
Midtier 6.3 Patch 021
MS SQL Server 2000

Upgrade path
ARS 7.1
Midtier 7
MS SQL Server 2000 maybe higher

I know this is a long shot but has anyone put together an integration
between two different ARSystem servers in two different companies?
I'm guessing the only real solution would be to use webservices. I don't
have anymore details other than " we must be able to transfer
information between systems.

Oh, did I mention that we can only spend labor dollars to accomplish
this?

I am just getting a taste of webservices inside one company and haven't
gotten too far.
Are there any issues with webservice publishing/consuming through the
security firewalls?

Sorry to be so general and I understand that the basic answer is
probably "yes". I need to get a rough order of magnitude for such a
requirement.

TIA,



John J. Reiser
Software Development Analyst
Remedy Administrator/Developer
Lockheed Martin - MS2
The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long.
Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. - paraphrased
by me


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