We use mainly AC models (WS-12-250AC and WS-8-150-AC).

At some sites they feed minis.



Last dead is a WS-8-150-AC it does a reboot loop. Chris told me it looks like a 
capacitor problem. They got some defective until they noticed. 2 Weeks before a 
Power Supply of a WS-12-250AC died (no voltage on the output pins). Then there 
where 2 WS-12-250AC and a mini which freezed last year due to surge (complete 
dead). But there was no lightning event. So some of this grounding stuff. In 
general we have quite good power supply here.





Von: Af [mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag von Carl Peterson
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 8. März 2017 16:18
An: [email protected]
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Netonix Quality problems ?



We use a lot of them and thus far no hardware issues that I'm aware of.  We 
primarily run DC versions.  I'd be interested in what Netonix switches you have 
seen issues with, how they were powered, how they were grounded, and what the 
failure mode was.



On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 10:05 AM, Rory Conaway <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

I think we buy at least 2 or 3 a week on average and currently have 60 or 70 
out there.  What Faisal said is pretty accurate.  When you are a small company, 
your reputation is important to you and Chris is very proud of his switches, as 
he should be.  It was a game changer for us and they are now the only switch we 
use in the field.

The only thing we have noticed recently is that when Ubiquiti upgraded to 6.0 
and 8.0, their Discovery no longer shows the Netonix switches.  Kind of petty 
in my opinion because nothing they make will survive in Arizona temperatures.  
I understand it, it’s just annoying in the field.



Rory



From: Af [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, March 8, 2017 7:56 AM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Netonix Quality problems ?



I'm very happy with the switches but I've only got a couple.  I'm using DC 
input for what that's worth.


The one or two guys on the forums are EXTREMELY helpful.






Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:(937)%20552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:(937)%20552-2343>
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 9:36 AM, Faisal Imtiaz <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

Let's look at the facts.....



Each item they ship out, has gone thru some level of testing.

There can be an issue with bad components, and yes Grounding is a major source 
of damage.

(Check their forums, they have decided to make a change on internal case 
grounding).

They do offer a repair service, actual cost of repair does offer a option if 
there was something defective in mfg.

(yes you have to accept their opinion).

Yes they are a small company, and have a knee jerk reaction of ... You are 
wrong until proven correct..

   I don't blame them, because of what majority wants to get away with in 
trying to pull fast ones...



FWIW, evaluating all the pros and con's.. their switches are a product that we 
feel comfortable in buying without thinking twice.



We have had them in service, we have had two or three damaged due to lightning, 
(possible grounding issues), we have them repaired

(approx half the cost of new).



Overall I have no complaints...

  (Keep in mind when dealing with smaller companies, getting needed attention 
to detail also comes with having to put up with the personality of the person 
on the other side).



My Two Cents worth.



:)



Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <tel:(305)%20663-5518>

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <tel:(305)%20663-5518>  Option 2 or Email: 
[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>




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From: "Stefan Englhardt" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 8, 2017 9:11:34 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] Netonix Quality problems ?

May be it’s due to increased amount but I see failing Netonix Switches in our 
Network.

Dead Powersupply, 2 dead switches which they say it’s due to grounding (all 
other Equipment at the

same sites never had this connected to the same cables). Now I have one 
suddenly rebooting with

poe load above 25 Watt. It is not a cracy high failure rate but none of this 
switches was old and conditions are

quite good. And a failing netonix is a dead site. I have lower failure rates 
with MT-Switches/Routers.

Looking back at our cisco times I cant remember dead switches. They pointed me 
to a hack where soldering

some cable will make them less sensitive to grounding problems.



What is your experience?













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