My guess is also OFDM overhead Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc.
> On Jan 12, 2017, at 7:11 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: > > Is it OFDM? Overhead? (cyclix prefix, pilot tones, etc.) > > From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett > Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 6:05 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our UBNT AF11x experience > > Right, if the spectrum is available, they'll be using 2x 80 MHz and getting > hella throughput. > > As far as the AF11's inefficiency? The world may never know. Right, a Lumina > with the same specs, but short on QAM is doing 732 megs as opposed to UBNT's > 600. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > Midwest Internet Exchange > > The Brothers WISP > > > > From: "Mathew Howard" <[email protected]> > To: "af" <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 6:00:50 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our UBNT AF11x experience > > Yeah, but if the spectrum is available, most people are going to be running > the B11 on two 80mhz channels, both directions, so it'll theoretically do > about double that (one direction... but not both directions at the same time, > since they are half duplex radios... ) > > I still don't understand why the AF11 can only do 600Mbps... our old SAF > Lumina can do 366Mbps on one polarity in the same size channel, and only do > 256QAM. > > On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 5:26 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: > I'll go with two polarities as I think that's the only way the B11 can run. > I'll go with what they spec it out to. > > AF11x: 428 > B11: 390 > 820c (same as IP20c): 694 > > > The costs can't even compare, though. You could build a whole network of B11s > for the price of an 820c link. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > Midwest Internet Exchange > > The Brothers WISP > > > > From: "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 5:17:29 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our UBNT AF11x experience > > What's the Nurburgring time for an F-250, a Grand Caravan and a Ferrari? > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > Midwest Internet Exchange > > The Brothers WISP > > > > From: "Jon Langeler" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 5:14:47 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our UBNT AF11x experience > > What's the one way throughout of Mimosa vs AF11x vs IP20 in 40Mhz? > > Jon Langeler > Michwave Technologies, Inc. > > > On Jan 12, 2017, at 5:55 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: > > At 40 MHz and a single polarity, you're looking at an almost insignificant > increase in throughput. > > Their claim is 1.2 gb+. > Cut that in half as they're advertising the aggregate, so 600 mb+. > That's using both polarities, so now only 300 mb+. > Only I haven't heard of anyone getting much more than 500 in a single > direction (they may certainly exist, I just haven't seen them), so now that > 300 is really only 250. > > > Not much of an upgrade unless you can also get larger channels in both > polarities. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > Midwest Internet Exchange > > The Brothers WISP > > > > From: "Josh Baird" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 11:47:42 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our UBNT AF11x experience > > This PTP800 is only capable of running at 40Mhz (ODU-A) so it can only do > 228Mbps full-duplex. The AF11x should be able to do much more than that, > right? > > On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Gino Villarini <[email protected]> wrote: > IIRC, PTP800 is Remec Style, you'll need Remec to N connector adapters (AF11x > is N) > > What do you expect to achieve with this upgrade? Not much capacity > difference between PTP800 and AF11x, maybe 50-80- mbps more. Only if you > have a xpic license you can double your throughput with the af11x > > From: Af <[email protected]> on behalf of Josh Baird <[email protected]> > Reply-To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Date: Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 9:12 AM > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our UBNT AF11x experience > > Good news - thanks for sharing. > > Somewhat un-related question: > > I have a PTP-800 link using these dishes: > > http://www.hol4g.com/AC/product.aspx?number=ANC-VHLP3-11W-RR1&p=237127&sc=0 > > Do you know if I can re-use these dishes with the AF11x? Do I need adapters? > > Josh > > > > Gino Villarini > > President > Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 > <aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png> > > On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 8:07 AM, Gino Villarini <[email protected]> wrote: > Hey all, just dropping by to share our experience with AF11x, we habe been > beta testing the unit since Sept and for the last 3 months, the unit has been > rock solid. > > > > We are very happy with its performance, just wished it had a SFP port! > > > > This unit replaced a Mimosa B11 unit that we were having some intermitent > throughtput issues, > > > > The swap was easy since we reused the Jirous Dishes and only had to add the > af11x adapters to it, > > > > The link went live on 9/21/16 and on the first weeks we experienced some > lockups, but after a revised beta fw was applied, all issues went away. > > > > For UBNT, please add SFP port and continue the good work towards a af6x and > af18x > > > > Gino Villarini > > President > Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 > <aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png> > > > > > > > >
