I really don’t care what you choose to believe. We don’t believe it, preach it or teach it. The majority of the LDS membership is outside the US boundaries and the majority skin color is not white.
But you will never believe a thing I say so why waste my time… From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Darin Steffl Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2026 9:32 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT I certainly emphathize with one of the two here. Chuck, You really have the blinders on if you're telling me you don't know anyone with some of those views. You're in Utah of all states. I've seen plenty of videos of Republicans and Maga supporters with some of those views. Start talking to some far right people you know. The racism talk will come out if you bring it up. The misogyny will come out. The hate of LGBT will come out. Religion loves to control women to convince them to be stay at home moms and not work a job. They convince women their only worth is to be a mother. It's fine if that's their choice but if they're raised to only believe that, it's brainwashing. I'm not sure how you can tell me with a straight face that Utah and Mormons don't believe some of these things when I've seen the opposite from so many. The Mormon church has covered up so many sexual assaults just like Catholics and every other denomination has. I listen and watch videos everyday of Republicans and Maga supporters that claim to have some of the extreme views that I listed. It's scary. Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com <http://www.mnwifi.com/> 507-634-WiFi Like us on Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> On Tue, Jan 20, 2026, 11:21 AM <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: I know many that are pretty far right and I don’t know a single one that: The far right wants a white only country. Christian only country. Death to LGBT members. Complete control of women and their bodies. Not allowing women to vote. Segregation of schools if they can't kill or deport people of color, etc. Not a SINGLE one of the thousands in my sphere of relationship wants ANY of these things. And I live in Utah and am part of the predominant faith. Our church teaches the opposite of all of these things. Absolutely diametrically opposite. But I guess to you I am a cult member… But here’s the problem, you will keep believing no matter what evidence is presented. You have some kind of weird confirmation bias. When exactly did you conflate radical Islam with the right wing of the republican party? Best Regards, Chuck McCown McCown Technology Corporation 8401 N Commerce Drive <https://www.google.com/maps/search/8401+N+Commerce+Drive+Lake+Point,+Utah+84074?entry=gmail&source=g> Lake Point, Utah 84074 <https://www.google.com/maps/search/8401+N+Commerce+Drive+Lake+Point,+Utah+84074?entry=gmail&source=g> 801-250-9503 Office <http://www.microtrench-blades.com/> www.microtrench-blades.com <http://www.mccowntech.com/> www.mccowntech.com www.terabitnetworks.com <http://www.terabitnetworks.com> From: AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf Of Darin Steffl Sent: Monday, January 19, 2026 7:30 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT I certainly emphathize with one of the two here. Mike, I strongly disagree with you. The far left wants a living wage for everyone, shelter for everyone, Healthcare for everyone, equality for everyone, no billionaires, etc. None of those are inherently bad or violent. Maybe unrealistic but not morally bad. The far right wants a white only country, a Christian only country, death to LGBT members, complete control of women and their bodies, not allowing women to vote, segregation of schools if they can't kill or deport people of color, etc. These are public beliefs of some Republican voters and leaders, I'm assuming they're far right. One side is worse than the other and it's always the right or far right. Their beliefs are morally wrong and violent. They like the second amendment so they can threaten violence against those they don't like. Liberal gun owners like myself don't flaunt or glamorize weapons because it's not mature or cool to do so. We just silently own them and act responsible while advocating for way stronger gun control. It's harder for me to renew my driver's license than buy a firearm. It took me less time to buy a new pistol than to get one auto insurance quote. I think that's wrong and I want it to be 50x harder to own a gun than it is today. Far right gun owners shove guns in your face, get tattoos of them, have 2nd amendment stickers, take family Christmas pictures with their rifles, say out loud that they care more about guns than murdered children at school, etc. It's weird as hell. The most moral party in America is democrats by far. That doesn't mean they're perfect but they are better. The party of "family values" voted for a pedophile and known rapist. And they continue to protect church leaders and politicians who commit these heinous crimes. Maga supporters continue to move the goal post and have no red line they won't cross with their support for a felon. It's sickening to watch Trump embarrass us on the world stage. He's burning every bridge with every ally we have and making new enemies everyday. He will go down as the worst president in American history, mark my words. His approval rating continues to drop and I predict in 10 years, most of his supporters will pretend they never liked him. Finding a Maga hat in your grandparents attic will be like finding a swastika. Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com <http://www.mnwifi.com/> 507-634-WiFi Like us on Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> On Mon, Jan 19, 2026, 9:01 PM Mike Hammett <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: There's no meaningful difference between the extreme right and the extreme left or between mainstream left politicians and mainstream right politicians. None of them actually care about people, only themselves or their cronies. Both sides just want to control you and force you to do things you don't want to or shouldn't have to do, they're just different things. They both will gladly spend your money on BS you don't want. -- Mike Hammett ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darin Steffl" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, January 19, 2026 7:53:57 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT I certainly emphathize with one of the two here. Your daughter sounds smart for getting away from Utah. It's full of many cult members, bad politics, and religious fanatics. Of course not all people there are like that but enough are. I'm from MN and it's a great state. Quality of life is excellent and Minneapolis is one of the best cities to live or visit. I split my time between FL and MN now but I can say with full confidence that MN is the best state that I've ever been to. Nice people, a state government that cares about everyone, hard workers, higher than average income, highest voter participation, environmental protections, and much more. FL has good weather but the people are way more rude, impatient, violent, bad traffic and driving, lower wages, higher cost of living. It's honestly night and day between a democrat vs republican state. Blue states rank better in almost every way for quality of life. State income tax may be higher but they use that to provide more to their citizens. You'll bring up fraud but every state has some fraud. MN is too nice and got taken advantage of by bad actors. They're cracking down now, as they should. FL and red states have much more corruption than any blue state. FL is full of it from the governor down the ranks. I'm not a far left liberal but I've always voted Democrat because Republicans have never been good people in my lifetime. I'm 34 and all they do is try to take away rights from people and dictate how others should live. They want to control women and their bodies, ban gay marriage, force religion in government and public schools, and encourage more guns which lead to more violence. Democrats are "live and let live" while Republicans want to control everyone different from them. It's honestly pathetic and I hope sometime in my lifetime, the republican party comes around and acts normal. Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com <http://www.mnwifi.com> 507-634-WiFi Like us on Facebook On Sun, Jan 18, 2026, 9:47 PM Steve Jones < [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: I would love to have that roommate. I would probably skip class as much as i could to stay in that room. I would start each morning by drilling a hole in the handle of a massive tomahawk steak. so i could slip my belt carabiner into it and carry my yummy stick around to snack on all day. I would expand my music taste into every variation of sound abuse they make. People like that who are so self absorbed that they think they get to dictate every other person are my jam. And you never know, I could end up with a semester pass if all goes well, assuming those roommate self checkout policies are real. I have that them thing sniffing cocaine off hookers asses in a short period. one sniff of the powder of power off a trollup and your pronouns and safe spaces dont matter any more. I was hoping that it would have showed up at the pool though and turned out not to be a total shitbag, no joy on that On Sat, Jan 17, 2026 at 6:11 PM < [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: As a dad of 8, you learn that you don’t get 100% yield on the production process. I can’t complain. Lost one son to a car accident. But I have 4 kids working with me at the company. That is success by any measure. And as a life long telecom guy, I learned a long time ago, you always have to have critical spares. I have one daughter that turned out to be 100% SJW. 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