Elon tweet indicated that engines operated as expected but there was low
thrust on landing due to header tank pressure issue.

On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 9:20 AM Robert <[email protected]> wrote:

> have there been any comments on the first engine stopping with all the
> flames and then the second engine shutdown and if that was planned.   There
> were only two engines operating during the landing attempt and it looks
> like they could have used the third.
>
> On 12/10/20 7:09 AM, Carl Peterson wrote:
>
> I could watch that all day.  In all, that was a pretty amazing test
> flight.   Because of the belly flop, it has a separate tank used for the
> landing burn.  Pressure in this tank was low so engine thrust was below
> nominal resulting in a sub-optimal touchdown.  No leg deploy either but
> this could be due to a timing issue from coming in too hot or not reaching
> leg deploy speed until it was already in contact with the ground.  Guessing
> they just need to bleed a little more heat into the header tank to keep
> pressure up.  Should see SN9 fly this month.
>
> On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 4:12 AM Matt Hoppes <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Stocks aren’t net worth unless you sell them though. Otherwise it’s
>> speculative.
>>
>> Look at yesterday and probably today.
>>
>> On Dec 9, 2020, at 11:17 PM, Steve Jones <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Same applies to anything in ones net worth.
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 9, 2020, 9:21 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> But if he sold all his stock, it would go down.  Schrodinger’s cat,
>>> applied to stock valuation.  Don’t look in the box, don’t look, don’t look
>>> … oh crap, you killed the cat.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 9, 2020 9:00 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Starship launch again
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Odd, when I go to my bank, my assets are taken into consideration for
>>> financing. Granted, Elon musk will never likely walk into my bank, and it's
>>> likely the entirety of my lifetime financing is probably what he spends on
>>> wristwatches a year, but i would venture a guess his financiers take that
>>> into consideration
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 9, 2020, 7:31 PM Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> It kind of doesn't until you trade it for something or liquefy it.
>>>
>>> On 12/9/2020 8:09 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>>
>>> Odd that you think net worth has no value
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 9, 2020, 6:20 PM Matt Hoppes <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Say what now?  He gets nothing out of stock going up unless he sells
>>> stock. And after today stocks are trashed for a bit.
>>>
>>> > On Dec 9, 2020, at 6:57 PM, Robert Andrews <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Oh the power of a skyrocketing stock price!   No issues with cash
>>> flow there!
>>> >
>>> >> On 12/09/2020 03:46 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
>>> >> I think that engine burning green was probably weaker than the design
>>> thrust.  It still stuck the landing, and was motionless and vertical for a
>>> half second.  But internal parts were probably moving downward due to the
>>> lack of soft landing.  It is supposed to be able to land on 2 engines, so
>>> the controller should have throttled it up.
>>> >> Some software tweaks.  Musk estimated 1/3rd chance of everything
>>> going right.  SN9 is ready to fly.  At least the belly flop maneuver looked
>>> flawless.
>>> >> *From:* Matt Hoppes
>>> >> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 9, 2020 4:03 PM
>>> >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Starship launch again
>>> >> It did look like it came in a bit hot.
>>> >>>> On Dec 9, 2020, at 6:01 PM, Bill Prince <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> 
>>> >>>
>>> >>> All I can say is cleanup in isle 3.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> That was awesome to watch. I thought they had it until the last few
>>> seconds. It looked (to me) like they were coming in too hot.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I also was wondering on the flight whether going from 3 engines to
>>> 2, and then to 1 was an anomaly. Based on the fact that all 3 fired up
>>> again on the landing that it was part of the plan.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> bp
>>> >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>> >>> On 12/9/2020 2:56 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
>>> >>>> One of the engines was burning bright green the last 5 seconds or
>>> so.  Burning copper based metal parts it appears.
>>> >>>> But if you put it in .25 speed play and single step through the
>>> last second or so, it stuck the landing.  It was at rest, vertical and then
>>> it blew up.
>>> >>>> *From:* Matt Hoppes
>>> >>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 9, 2020 3:54 PM
>>> >>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> >>>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown
>>> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Starship launch again
>>> >>>> Boom.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> On Dec 9, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Chuck McCown via AF mailto:
>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> 
>>> >>>>> *https://youtu.be/ap-BkkrRg-o*
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