Hi, guys. So I've decided to release erlangzmq under MPLv2. One unintended side-effect of this porject has been that I actually sold a few of my math-history books (Fibonacci, his numbers and his rabbits) and getting my book out there is worth more than any money I could ever make on this codebase.
I was not really happy with the name, and neither "erlangmq" nor "erlangzmtp" sounded right. So I just made up a completely new name: chumak. I am still undecided about the "zeromq organization", so I'll keep it in my repo for now. You're free to clone it if you like. New project can be found here: https://github.com/chovencorp/chumak On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 at 03:15 Pieter Hintjens <[email protected]> wrote: > ErlangMQ is a good name IMO, and you can always use that case style in > documentation and erlangmq in source. > > On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 2:25 AM, Andriy Drozdyuk <[email protected]> wrote: > > Never-mind regarding the name, I see the JeroMQ, NetMQ. It only makes > sense > > to call it "erlangmq" (alas, Erlang does not use came-casing). > > > > > > On Sat, 13 Aug 2016 at 16:41 Andriy Drozdyuk <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> One more question, regarding the name, isn't ZMTP just "ZeroMQ-MTP" What > >> is "ZeroMQ" itself then? > >> Is it the c-library itself specifically? > >> > >> On Sat, 13 Aug 2016 at 16:18 Andriy Drozdyuk <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>> I see that you often accept pull requests yourself. Would I be able to > >>> accept PR on behalf of the project? Or are only the "admin" teams > allowed to > >>> merge? > >>> > >>> > >>> On Sat, 13 Aug 2016 at 15:36 Pieter Hintjens <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> The project is still owned by you and anyone else you select. There > >>>> are admin teams who get some rights over projects; I think we had one > >>>> case of over-reach with this, didn't happen again. If for some insane > >>>> reason people remove your rights (I guess anything's possible given an > >>>> infinite future), you fork the project back to your safe space and > >>>> make a public noise. > >>>> > >>>> On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Andriy Drozdyuk <[email protected]> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > Agreed on the name. Will do. > >>>> > > >>>> > Oh phew, I thought you were beeing serious about the skype interview > >>>> > there > >>>> > for a second. :-) > >>>> > Is the project "owned" by anyone at that point? What's to prevent me > >>>> > being > >>>> > removed from the "admins" (just hypothetical question)? > >>>> > > >>>> > On Sat, 13 Aug 2016 at 14:11 Pieter Hintjens <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> >> > >>>> >> You need to pay us a fee in small-unit BTC (to be discussed) and > then > >>>> >> pass through the initiation ceremony, which involves firstly the > >>>> >> short > >>>> >> 6-hour Skype interview about your understanding of queuing theory > as > >>>> >> it intersects with Conways' Law, then a longer Q&A session with the > >>>> >> Elders of the Zero, as we like to call ourselves. > >>>> >> > >>>> >> Just kidding. It's simply a place on github, that lets you claim > the > >>>> >> project is "official" and lets us boast we have more "official" > >>>> >> projects. No change in the project organization or admin. We have > our > >>>> >> recommendations for license and process yet you're not forced to > >>>> >> follow these. > >>>> >> > >>>> >> See http://zeromq.org/docs:organization > >>>> >> > >>>> >> BTW I really would suggest a rename to make it clearer it's not a > >>>> >> binding but a complete implementation. Either using "zmtp" in the > >>>> >> name, or something MQ, is the fashion. > >>>> >> > >>>> >> -Pieter > >>>> >> > >>>> >> On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 7:59 PM, Andriy Drozdyuk <[email protected] > > > >>>> >> wrote: > >>>> >> > Hi, Peter. > >>>> >> > What did you mean by "bring the project into the ZeroMQ > >>>> >> > organization on > >>>> >> > github"? > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > Would I still be able to oversee the development process? In > >>>> >> > particular, > >>>> >> > accepting patches, nominating contributors etc... > >>>> >> > How does that work? > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > Thank you. > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > On Thu, 30 Jun 2016 at 12:39 Andriy Drozdyuk <[email protected]> > >>>> >> > wrote: > >>>> >> >> > >>>> >> >> Thanks Pieter. I've read all those things when I learned zmq :) > I > >>>> >> >> agree > >>>> >> >> with what you're suggesting, but that model doesn't really work > >>>> >> >> for me > >>>> >> >> at > >>>> >> >> this time. I was thinking of trying it this way for a year to > see > >>>> >> >> what > >>>> >> >> happens in the future. > >>>> >> >> > >>>> >> >> Elliot, thanks for that distinction. I've never thought about > that > >>>> >> >> but > >>>> >> >> it > >>>> >> >> makes perfect sense. > >>>> >> >> Regarding curve, that would be amazing. This was going to be my > >>>> >> >> next > >>>> >> >> goal. > >>>> >> >> You can contact me at [email protected] so we can discuss it > >>>> >> >> further. > >>>> >> >> > >>>> >> >> > >>>> >> >> On Thu, 30 Jun 2016, 5:10 a.m. Elliot Crosby-McCullough, > >>>> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> >> >>> > >>>> >> >>> Hi Andriy, > >>>> >> >>> > >>>> >> >>> Glad to see a full BEAM implementation. > >>>> >> >>> > >>>> >> >>> I've been working on something similar in Elixir > >>>> >> >>> (https://github.com/SmartCasual/elixir-zeromq) but since > you've > >>>> >> >>> gotten > >>>> >> >>> further in Erlang I'll take a look at contributing Curve > support > >>>> >> >>> to > >>>> >> >>> yours > >>>> >> >>> instead, since all I really wanted was native BEAM instead of a > >>>> >> >>> binding to > >>>> >> >>> the C library given the dangers and/or inefficiencies of doing > >>>> >> >>> so. > >>>> >> >>> > >>>> >> >>> I'll have to look more closely into the licensing you've gone > for > >>>> >> >>> to > >>>> >> >>> see > >>>> >> >>> whether it's compatible with my needs. > >>>> >> >>> > >>>> >> >>> Small note, but what you've got there is an implementation not > a > >>>> >> >>> binding > >>>> >> >>> (which is a good thing). It would be a binding if it used e.g. > >>>> >> >>> the C > >>>> >> >>> library to do the work. > >>>> >> >>> > >>>> >> >>> Regards, > >>>> >> >>> Elliot > >>>> >> >>> > >>>> >> >>> On 28 June 2016 at 18:09, Andriy Drozdyuk <[email protected]> > >>>> >> >>> wrote: > >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> >> >>>> At Pieter's suggestion, I am putting this here: > >>>> >> >>>> https://github.com/chovencorp/erlangzmq > >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> >> >>>> Native erlang 18 implementation of ZMTP 3.1 (including > resource > >>>> >> >>>> property), but without any security. > >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> >> >>>> Hopefully it will be useful to people. I know I'll use it > myself > >>>> >> >>>> - > >>>> >> >>>> since > >>>> >> >>>> all (native) erlang bindings are out of date. > >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> >> >>>> This is a six month young project, so this is NOT performance > or > >>>> >> >>>> otherwise tested at all, and I would appreciate any feedback > >>>> >> >>>> (just > >>>> >> >>>> take a > >>>> >> >>>> second to file an issue). > >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> >> >>>> Thank you, > >>>> >> >>>> --Andriy Drozdyuk > >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> >> >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> >> >>>> zeromq-dev mailing list > >>>> >> >>>> [email protected] > >>>> >> >>>> http://lists.zeromq.org/mailman/listinfo/zeromq-dev > >>>> >> >>> > >>>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> >> >>> zeromq-dev mailing list > >>>> >> >>> [email protected] > >>>> >> >>> http://lists.zeromq.org/mailman/listinfo/zeromq-dev > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > _______________________________________________ > >>>> >> > zeromq-dev mailing list > >>>> >> > [email protected] > >>>> >> > http://lists.zeromq.org/mailman/listinfo/zeromq-dev > >>>> >> _______________________________________________ > >>>> >> zeromq-dev mailing list > >>>> >> [email protected] > >>>> >> http://lists.zeromq.org/mailman/listinfo/zeromq-dev > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > _______________________________________________ > >>>> > zeromq-dev mailing list > >>>> > [email protected] > >>>> > http://lists.zeromq.org/mailman/listinfo/zeromq-dev > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> zeromq-dev mailing list > >>>> [email protected] > >>>> http://lists.zeromq.org/mailman/listinfo/zeromq-dev > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > zeromq-dev mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.zeromq.org/mailman/listinfo/zeromq-dev > _______________________________________________ > zeromq-dev mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.zeromq.org/mailman/listinfo/zeromq-dev
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