On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Peter Hutterer <[email protected]>wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 11:24:38PM -0500, Brandon Casey wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 1:15 AM, Peter Hutterer < > [email protected]>wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 10:16:18PM -0500, Brandon Casey wrote: > > > > Please let me know if this is the wrong place to post this message. > > > > > > > > For a long time now I have been missing the old method that I used to > use > > > to > > > > highlight text, drag-and-drop, and move windows around. I used to be > > > able > > > > to produce a button press-and-hold by performing a double-tap and > hold > > > (tap > > > > twice on touchpad, but leave the finger resting on the touchpad on > the > > > > second tap). But with recent distributions the last few years, that > > > doesn't > > > > work. Now, it seems, you have to double-tap, hold, and drag. > > > > > > > > Is there any way to re-enable the old double-tap-and-hold instead of > the > > > > double-tap-and-drag? > > > > > > this probably doesn't help but I've just tried it here and it worked > fine. > > > you can disable it by unsetting the Synaptics Gestures property but it > is > > > enabled by default. > > > > > > > So, when you double-tap-and-hold on a window title bar, without moving > > the mouse after the second tap (i.e. no "drag" gesture), your pointer > grabs > > the title bar and the mouse icon changes to indicate that? > > tbh, I can't tap without moving, my touchpad is too sensible. it > always moves by a few pixels at least. "tbh"? I don't know what that means. "sensible"? Did you mean "sensitive"? I guess it's possible that your pointer moves enough after your second tap that the driver interprets it as a drag? The setting is called TapAndDragGesture though, so that, along with the documentation, implies that a "drag" is part of the gesture. > > Just to make sure you understood me (and I you), when I do the > > above, nothing happens. It doesn't even produce an event in xev. > > if you're on the window bar, the event never goes to xev, it's captured by > the WM. try doing it _inside_ the xev window, that should show events. Yes, sorry, when I was using xev, the pointer was within the xev window. Other operations produce the appropriate events. The dtap-and-drag gesture produces the button press and release events, intermixed with a bunch of motion events. > > The double-tap-and-drag gesture does work, but for that one, you have > > to drag your finger after the second tap (touch-release-touch-drag). > > The Synaptics Gestures property controls this feature. If I disable it, > > then it disables double-tap-and-drag, but it doesn't enable > > double-tap-and-hold. You then have to use the > > physical buttons. > > I can't remember any changes to this extent going into the driver. maybe > it's a side-effect of other change but you'd have to look at the state > machine in the driver where exactly the problem is now. My description of the behavior I am seeing is exactly what the synaptics man page describes as how the TapAndDragGesture is supposed to work. So, it seems like it is intended behavior. I just hoped the old tap-and-hold behavior could be enabled somehow. And when I say "old", I mean about 5 years ago, which may predate the synaptics driver, I don't know. > > I would like to enable the tap-and-hold functionality, but I don't know > > how to get it. Maybe there is an alternative touchpad driver other than > > the synaptics one? If so, how do I disable the synaptics driver and just > > use the standard one? > > there's only one touchpad driver. :( > I'm using fedora-15, and fedora 13 before it. What distribution are > > you using? > > F15, but my X bits are the upstream ones. > Hmm. Thanks, -Brandon
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