On 05.10.2010, at 10:56, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: > - Do we really want to implement an IE extension in a way that's way > different from IE? > > We support many features that IE initially implemented; HTML editing is a > good example.
How is this relevant? This topic is complicated as is, let's not try to confuse each other. > Also, I don't think the difference between IE and Firefox's implementation > affects CJK websites, which presumably will be the primary users of ime-mode. I think it does. An example that was given by Kenichi Ishibashi in <https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21279> was a site that used ime-mode to limit input to Katakana. You can't type Katakana when an ASCII-capable IM is forced on Mac, can you? > We really should have named this property as cjk-ime-mode! Yes, every feature that's added to the Web is only put to good use, exactly as envisioned by its creators. Do you suggest limiting the feature to pages that specify lang="ja"? I didn't respond to you previous e-mail, because I don't see how any argument of usefulness on "CJK websites" in specific circumstances is an answer to concerns about possible harm. > - What to do on platforms other than Mac and Windows? > > We can do whatever is "appropriate" or not support it at the moment. Making it easier for web sites to support only a subset of important platforms is not something that I see as a good thing. I think that whoever proposes adding a feature to desktop WebKit needs to make sure that it doesn't make mobile users miserable. We need to improve both. > - What to do with the harm from future misuse, which is more than likely, > given that most (all?) suggested use cases were wrong? > > I think it's websites' fault if they misuse CSS property. We cannot expect this level of i18n awareness from web site authors. Pretty much every use of this feature is a misuse, but it takes considerable experience to know why. On 05.10.2010, at 10:38, Alexey Proskuryakov wrote: > Note that Mozilla documentation on ime-mode > <https://developer.mozilla.org/en/CSS/ime-mode> has weird disclaimers like > "in general, it's not appropriate for a public web site to manipulate the IME > mode setting. This property should be used for web applications and the > like". I'm reading this as "we're now sorry that we implemented it". I now tested, and it looks like Mac Firefox doesn't actually implement ime-mode, despite documentation claims. That's surprising, could you please check that? - WBR, Alexey Proskuryakov
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