Hi Mike,

Good to hear your generally positive feedback on the potential of ODS. We
certainly do look forward to obtaining access to the documentation you ae
producing which I am sure will prove very useful for both internal and
external use.

Best Regards,
Hugh


On 2/7/07 18:19, "Michael K. Bergman" <m...@mkbergman.com> wrote:

> To All OpenLinkers and ODSers,
> 
> Hey, folks, I'm just sending a note to say Thanks! and provide my first
> impressions on working directly with the ODS code base.  As many of you
> may know, I wrote a fairly detailed product review a couple of months
> back (http://www.mkbergman.com/?p=355).  The research behind that review
> convinced me to use ODS for some of my own projects.
> 
> So now, I am getting even more under the hood.  I may be one of the
> first outside of OpenLink to probe the framework and its applications
> pretty deeply.  I appreciate Mitko and Rumi's and everyone's efforts to
> answer my questions, which (fortunately or unfortunately, however you
> look at it :) ), will likely continue at a pretty aggressive pace.
> 
> You all are to be congratulated and thanked.  This is a very powerful
> system, with a singularity of vision about breaking down the barriers
> between data silos that I believe is timely and important.  Therefore, I
> also believe it has very great commercial potential, as well! :)
> 
> The scope of the effort is also impressive.  There are so many useful
> apps under this ODS umbrella, representing nearly complete coverage of
> all existing social and collaboration apps on the Web.  (BTW, is the
> historical 'wa' from Web apps?)
> 
> However, like any such effort that has been undertaken over a period of
> time and without (yet) much external use, there are rough spots, gaps
> and inconsistencies within ODS.  This is to be expected.  The fact there
> are as few as I am seeing speaks well to the original vision and
> approach taken behind this platform.
> 
> I am aggressively customizing the platform through its available UI,
> making modifications directly through code, and generally trying to
> immerse myself as much as possible into a crash education in the system.
> 
> While I applaud the direction of ODS to host external LAMP and other
> applications (I myself have been an aggressive user and specifier of
> WordPress, Joomla, and MediaWiki, for example), I have chosen to focus
> on OpenLink's internal approach with XSL, VSPX and its extended SQL for
> my efforts.
> 
> (That is because I believe there is also a powerful vision and
> integration potential behind these foundations and their relation to
> Virtuoso as well.)
> 
> In the process, I am:
> 
> 1.  Drafting missing documentation and 'how to' instructions
> 2.  Keeping a journal of suggestions and recommendations for how to
> improve the existing framework
> 3.  Making notes on natural extensions and applications of the ODS
> framework in a variety of venues.
> 
> So far, my documentation runs to scores of pages (granted, some of that
> is file and directory documentation!) across a dozen topics or more.
> OpenLink will have complete use of this documentation for however it
> sees fit.
> 
> So, everyone, in part I wrote this, again, to say Thanks! for this great
> effort.  But, because of my use and likely continued posts to this
> forum, I wanted everyone to know the background in advance.  And I'd
> especially like to thank Kingsley for supporting my interest in ODS.
> 
> So, everyone, if I sound critical or make many suggestions as these
> threads continue, please know that is because I like what you have
> created and believe in its potential -- which I would like to help
> promote in some small manner -- and am trying to understand and document
> it as best I can.
> 
> Thanks for your understanding, and I look forward to working with all of
> you more in the coming weeks.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Mike Bergman
> 
> 
> 
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