At 10:14 19/03/2019 +0100, Anthon Keuchenius wrote:
I frequently encounter a major problem using open office. Usually i have many documents open on my system (Windows10) and they are kept open also if the system shuts down, they open (as doc1 doc2 etc) at the next startup.
If you genuinely shut down a Windows system, open applications, such as OpenOffice, will be closed, and you should see an invitation to save or discard any changes you have made. Whichever you choose, documents will (normally) not open automatically next time you start Windows.
So what are you actually doing? One possibility is that you are pulling the plug on the system without shutting down Windows at all. (This would be very silly practice, of course.) In that case, you cannot be challenged to save or discard your changes. When you restart OpenOffice, it will attempt to recover some of your work and offer you what it can. This will almost never include all of any changes you have made.
More likely is that you are not shutting down Windows but using either Sleep or Hibernate (or you may have Windows configured to Sleep automatically after a specified time of inactivity by the user). If either of these techniques are used, changes made to documents in applications will not be saved, but the unsaved editing sessions will be reopened when your system is restarted. This must be what you are doing.
However they are all lost when Open Office updates automatically.
You are mistaken: as has already been explained, OpenOffice never updates automatically. There is an option to inform you of the availability of new versions and even to download them, but they are not installed unless you do this yourself.
This is very unfortunate because much work is lost.
What does happen automatically is updates to Windows 10 - not OpenOffice. If these require a restart of Windows, as they sometimes must, this restart will normally happen only outside the "active hours" you have set and if you do not appear to be using the system. But such a restart will need to close all applications, and cannot make a decision to save changes you have made but left unsaved. So you are bound to lose work if you choose to let this happen.
You may want to address this major problem sometime.
Since I am only a user, just like you (and a subscriber to this Users list), I don't want to - indeed cannot - do anything. And the "major problem" appears to be your practice with your computer. So it will be you who need to address it!
At 17:04 19/03/2019 +0100, Anthon Keuchenius wrote:
I've checked off automatic updates in options of Openoffice itself, hope this helps.
No: that will make no difference. As explained above, this affects whether you are informed of new versions of whether they are downloaded - but *not* installed - automatically. This cannot be your problem.
Or am i not using a genuine openoffice installation. How is one to know?
Probably only by remembering where you obtained it.
I know i may be lazy or stupid ...
I imagine you are neither of these.
... but i'm just trying to help making Openoffice better.
If my diagnosis is correct, OpenOffice is behaving exactly as it should. Nothing you have said suggests any necessary improvement. What may need improving is your practice in using OpenOffice - or any other application. When leaving your computer for any significant time, especially if this includes any of your chosen "inactive hours", save or discard - as appropriate - any changes you have made. Remember that a power outage whilst you are away will cause you to lose work.
When Windows 10 restarts because of an update (often monthly on or soon after "Patch Tuesday"), expect to have to restart any applications and reopen (properly saved) documents.
Even when unorganized and such, losing documents is not fun.
Of course not - and it can generally be avoided by good housekeeping practices. And you can lose a document completely in this way only if you never saved it at all, of course.
I trust this helps. Brian Barker --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
