Hello,

I'm using NB 21 with bundled JDK on Macbook pro 16 M2 (no external display) and 
I'm experiencing:

• occasional NB sudden crash/quit


I'm on Ventura 13.6.6.
This is the first version of NB on which I encounter this problem on M2

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Il 16 apr 2024, 11:31 +0200, Juan Miguel Escribano <juan.es...@gmail.com> ha 
scritto:
> Hi Stan,
>
> I see that the problem seems to be in Sonoma, not in Java or Netbeans.
>
> We can do little to solve it, but at least I feel calmer for not being alone. 
> 😉
>
> Anyway, thank you very much for the response.
>
> Best!
> — — —
> Juan Miguel Escribano
>
> On 16/04/2024 10:14, Giles Winstanley wrote:
> > Hi Juan,
> >
> > Yes I've certainly encountered similar behaviour, which is frustrating and 
> > an ongoing delay to development.
> >
> > Clearly issues were identified with Sonoma 14.4 and macOS on Apple Silicon 
> > (https://bugs.java.com/bugdatabase/view_bug?bug_id=8327860). I managed to 
> > bypass a significant amount of these issues by temporarily switching to 
> > Azul Zulu OpenJDK, although it didn't resolve all issues. Now I've updated 
> > to Sonoma 14.4.1 and have issues again, although a little different:
> >
> > Setup:
> >     - macOS Sonoma 14.4.1
> >     - Eclipse Temurin OpenJDK 21.0.2
> >     - MacBook Pro M2 Max 16"
> >     - External display (Acer Nitro XV273K)
> >
> > Symptoms:
> >     - Frequent Netbeans hangs
> >         - usually temporary & seem to recover after a short while following 
> > Cmd-Option-Escape to bring up Force-Quit window (note: I do not need to 
> > actually force-quit NB in these cases)
> >         - occasional NB sudden crash/quit
> >         - occasional system hang & forced logout
> >         - occasional system hang & I must force reboot
> >     - Console/system-log fails to show any obvious pattern, although there 
> > are a few WindowServer crashes listed for related times
> >         - WindowServer involvement seems to make sense given increased 
> > frequency of issues when using external display
> >
> > My guess is it's some complicated interaction of new macOS WindowServer 
> > code with Java's GUI-related code, and since Netbeans is a long-running 
> > GUI-related process it acts as the main trigger. I seldom run other Java 
> > GUI-based applications for long periods; if I did perhaps they'd also 
> > trigger the issues.
> >
> > Doubt it helps, but you're certainly not the only one with these issues, 
> > and the Sonoma 14.4 update seems instrumental in introducing issues.
> >
> > Stan
> >
> > On 16/04/2024 07:28, Juan Miguel Escribano wrote:
> > > Hello there,
> > >
> > > First, I'm not sure if the problem is in Netbeans or in Java itself or 
> > > even in macOS, but I wanted to comment it here to see if it happens to 
> > > anyone else.
> > >
> > > My system:
> > > MacBook Pro 16’ M2 Pro, with macOS Sonoma 14.4.1
> > > Netbeans 21
> > > Java: 21.0.2; OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM 21.0.2+13-LTS
> > >
> > > The problem only happens when I do not have the computer connected to an 
> > > external monitor. If Netbeans is on the external monitor everything works 
> > > fine, but when it is on the internal monitor is when the problem happened 
> > > to me.
> > > What happens is that, without a defined pattern (at least I haven't been 
> > > able to find it), macOS stops responding. The mouse pointer moves, but 
> > > neither clicking nor pressing any key has any effect.
> > > I have to press the shutdown key several times and, after a while, the 
> > > user session closes and reopens and the system responds. But if I don't 
> > > restart it then Netbeans doesn't start.
> > >
> > > Has something like this happened to anyone?
> > >
> > > Thank you so much
> > > Best!
> > > — — —
> > > Juan Miguel Escribano
> > >
> >
>
>

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