I don't think so (and neither does svn [1]), as that would have overridden
the 1.5 defaults of v2.3+ of the plugin as well.

/Anders

[1]
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/maven/maven-2/tags/maven-2.2.1/maven-project/src/main/resources/org/apache/maven/project/pom-4.0.0.xml?view=markup

On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 22:21, Justin Edelson <[email protected]>wrote:

> Code, like hips, don't lie. Prior to 2.3, the plugin didn't have default
> values for source and target. I think they were set to 1.3 in the super POM.
>
> On Aug 4, 2010, at 3:45 PM, Anders Hammar <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > The docs retrieved by help:describe should be exactly what was published
> at
> > the maven site.
> >
> > However, for the source and target params my memory tells be that there
> was
> > defaults of 1.3. Hmm...
> > See this jira:
> > http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MCOMPILER-80
> >
> > /Anders
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 17:26, Justin Edelson <[email protected]
> >wrote:
> >
> >> That just means that those parameters don't have a default value, at
> >> least not one injected by the plugin system/Plexus.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 3:33 AM, Flavio Pompermaier <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>> Maybe you miss a reply:
> >>> I tried also with help:describe but, with this command, not all
> >>> parameters have an associated description of default value (although
> >>> it exists because I remember that the old site documentation says that
> >>> the default value for source is 1.4, for version 2.0.2 of the compiler
> >>> plugin).
> >>>
> >>> The command I wrote was:
> >>>
> >>> mvn help:describe -DgroupId=org.apache.maven.plugins
> >>> -DartifactId=maven-compiler-plugin -Dversion=2.0.2
> >>> -Dcmd=compiler:compile -Ddetail
> >>>
> >>> did I miss something?
> >>>
> >>> 2010/8/3 Anders Hammar <[email protected]>:
> >>>> As I describe in my blog post, the help mojo doesn't always exist. In
> >> those
> >>>> cases, help:describe would work. It's all in the post, with examples
> and
> >>>> all.
> >>>>
> >>>> /Anders
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 17:36, Flavio Pompermaier <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I tried the suggested command with the current version:
> >>>>>      mvn org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-compiler-plugin:2.3.1:help
> >>>>> -Ddetail -Dgoal=compile
> >>>>> and things are fine (as I was searching for).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> However for the old version I was searching for (2.0.2) it doesn't
> >>>>> work..such auto-documentation was not implemented for that version..?
> >>>>>      mvn org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-compiler-plugin:2.0.2:help
> >>>>> -Ddetail -Dgoal=compile
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2010/8/3 Flavio Pompermaier <[email protected]>:
> >>>>>> I think you intend
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> mvn help:describe -DgroupId=org.apache.maven.plugins
> >>>>>> -DartifactId=maven-compiler-plugin -Dversion=2.0.2
> >>>>>> -Dcmd=compiler:compile -Ddetail
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> However such documentation doesn't show the default value of
> >>>>>> parameters (not all at least)!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 2010/8/3 Anders Hammar <[email protected]>:
> >>>>>>> You can always get the docs from the plugin. Here's how:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>
> http://www.sonatype.com/people/2010/06/diy-retrieving-a-maven-plugins-documentation/
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> /Anders
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 14:12, Flavio Pompermaier <
> [email protected]
> >>>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Ok..so, if it is not defined how can I know the default value for
> >>>>>>>> source parameter in the maven-compiler-plugin verion 2.0.2 if the
> >>>>>>>> documentation is no more online?
> >>>>>>>> It should be 1.4 but I want to know how verify it..and I want to
> >> know
> >>>>>>>> how to behave in similar situations..
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 2010/8/3 Justin Edelson <[email protected]>:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 2010, at 4:57 AM, Flavio Pompermaier <
> >> [email protected]>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> And the default value is..? I still haven't understand how to
> >>>>> evaluate
> >>>>>>>>>> the maven.compiler.xxx variables..
> >>>>>>>>>> For example, the documentation on the web site says that default
> >>>>> value
> >>>>>>>>>> of maven.compiler.source is 1.5,
> >>>>>>>>> As previously discussed, the documentation says no such thing.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> maven.compiler.source is not defined by default.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> but this holds for the current
> >>>>>>>>>> version (2.3.1)...
> >>>>>>>>>> What if I want to know the default value for the
> >>>>> maven.compiler-plugin
> >>>>>>>>>> version 2.0.2?
> >>>>>>>>>> I cannot found any documentation about it..I cannot think that
> >>>>> there's
> >>>>>>>>>> no way to evaluate its value!!
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> 2010/7/13 Stephen Connolly <[email protected]>:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 13 July 2010 07:40, Flavio Pompermaier <[email protected]>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> This is the description on the source paramenter of the
> >> compiler
> >>>>>>>>>>>> plugin page (of the goal compile:compile):
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> source:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> The -source argument for the Java compiler.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>   * Type: java.lang.String
> >>>>>>>>>>>>   * Since: 2.0
> >>>>>>>>>>>>   * Required: No
> >>>>>>>>>>>>   * Expression: ${maven.compiler.source}
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> This means that if the property maven.compiler.source is
> >> defined,
> >>>>> use
> >>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>> value, otherwise assume that the value is...
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>   * Default: 1.5
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> How can I get that value? If it is not evaluable as an
> >> expression,
> >>>>> how
> >>>>>>>>>>>> can I know how it will be evaluated by the plugin?
> >>>>>>>>>>>> My JavaHome points to a Java 1.6 but as far as I know the
> >> 2.0.2
> >>>>>>>>>>>> compiler use 1.4 compilation, isn't it?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/7/13 Anders Hammar <[email protected]>:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> No, you're not configuring the property that way. You're
> >>>>> configuring
> >>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> plugin, but you're not setting the property.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> A property is set in hte properties section of the pom.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> /Anders
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 00:34, Flavio Pompermaier <
> >>>>> [email protected]
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I set that variable via the configuration section of the
> >>>>> compiler
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> plugin of my pom.xml but the result of help:evaluate of that
> >>>>>>>> variable
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> returns null! My question is: how can I retrieve the default
> >>>>> values
> >>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the parameters of a certain plugin version?if I look at the
> >>>>> plugin
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> site I can see that its default value is 1.5. But this is
> >> valid
> >>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the current version..if I want to know its default value for
> >> an
> >>>>>>>> older
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> version what am I supposed to do??
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/7/12, Anders Hammar <[email protected]>:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This does work for me:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mvn help:evaluate -Dmaven.compiler.source=1.5
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Dexpression=maven.compiler.source
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm setting the maven.compiler.source property here on
> >> command
> >>>>> line
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of specifying it in the project, which should work the
> >> same.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Anders
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 23:27, Justin Edelson
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From a shell, help:evaluate should be the right thing to
> >> do.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Could it be that maven.compiler.source is, in fact, null?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/12/10 5:23 PM, Flavio Pompermaier wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I mean,how can I display their value?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/7/12, Justin Edelson <[email protected]>:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what do you mean by inspect?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/12/10 1:13 PM, Flavio Pompermaier wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi to all,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is there a way to inspect maven.* variables (such as
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ${maven.compiler.source})?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I tried to use the help:evaluate tool but it tells me
> >> "null
> >>>>>>>>>>>> object
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> invalid expression".
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any idea??
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Flavio
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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