Just a quick question: What's wrong with radeox and regex? 

On æ, 2004-05-24 at 17:37 -0400, Jason van Zyl wrote:
> On Mon, 2004-05-24 at 17:11, Rafal Krzewski wrote:
> > Hello world,
> > 
> > I'm wondering how much of the Maven community uses Confluence as well. I 
> > do and I certainly like that.
> 
> All of the maven2 use cases and other docs like the criteria for the
> first m2 alpha, repository upload applications, security docs and some
> other things are in Confluence. I am going to make it public when the
> alpha is released.
> 
> > Some time ago someone Nick Minutello wrote in his blog (can't find the 
> > link ATM, sorry) that he is working on a maven plugin that would 
> > tranform xdocs into Confuence compatible format and push them onto a 
> > server throgh the RPC interface.
> > The effect - all documentation is viewed and edited through the 
> > confluence. Now, what about maven reports which are generated as xdocs? 
> > Should they be be pushed up to confluence too? But my projects generates 
> > 160 xdocs, totalling over 2.6MB of xml markup. Nah, I don't think so...
> 
> I have never been a huge fan of the wiki as permanent documentation but
> it does serve a purpose insofar as collecting possibly useful
> documentation. To that end I think it would definitely be cool to be
> able to use Confluence as an editing machine and extract the decent
> documentation from confluence and make it part of the site.
> 
> In part of my revulsion of having to use MS Word to write the Maven book
> I got to thinking about what other way I could write the chapters of the
> book and how it might be easier to collaborate with my editor as
> checking in Word documents sucks.
> 
> So I started yanking out confluence docs and converting them to apt:
> 
> http://www.xmlmind.com/aptconvert.html
> 
> After realizing the internal format of confluence is crap I just started
> using apt itself which I think is a better format anyway (I was
> convinced by Pete Kazmier) but I still have my confluence to apt stuff.
> >From the apt format I can create xdocs and from there generate stuff.
> I'm also using apt for the book which goes from apt -> MIF which is
> framemaker output that gets sucked into ORA's production system.
> 
> > Bob McWhirter took an opposite approach. He wrote a perls script 
> > (allegedly called "confluenza") that pulls Confluence content down and 
> > generates a set of static html pages. You could see the result on 
> > http://timtam.codehaus.org/ Notice the "Edit" link at the right bottom 
> > corner of the page. J Aaron Farr described it on his blog:
> > http://www.jadetower.org/muses/archives/000051.html
> > I pesonally like this approach better than the other on - serving static 
> > html is simply faster - but what about my maven reports?!
> > 
> > Therefore I think a combined approach would suit me best. A confluence 
> > plugin that would be able to:
> > 
> > 1) push my existing xdocs (the hand written ones of course) up to 
> > confluence, so that I may edit them online.
> > This part could be assimilated from Nick's hypothetic (or not?) plugin
> > 
> > 2) pull docs from Confluence and turn them into xdocs, so that they get 
> > processed by the xdoc plugin and turned into static html. The maven's 
> > navigation.xml should also be generated in that proces based on the page 
> > parent-child relationships.
> > Actually, navigation.xml processing would need to become more flexible - 
> > I still would like to define vertical toolbar links, and custom menus 
> > referncing maven generated reports, the confluence docs should go into a 
> > "Documentation" menu, or something.
> > This is similar to Bob's approach, but would have to be implemented in 
> > Jelly, or preferably as a POJO for easy m2 generation, and obviously the 
> > output grammar is different.
> > 
> > Too bad that I'm swamped with other work now, so I'm just tossing ideas 
> > around... Any takers? I'm willing to do the testing / reviews if someone 
> > is willing to work on implementing it.
> 
> I've got lots of stuff if you want to look at it. But ultimately I think
> I'm going to make something that uses the apt format and by pass
> confluence, it's format and radeox all together. Regexes are proving not
> to cut the mustard. I think the apt format would make an idea wiki and
> blog format but I'm all for using confluence for now. Pete Kazmier
> started the work and I finished the job of getting apt's license changed
> from LGPL to the MIT license.
> 
> We already have full apt -> xdoc, to go the other way probably wouldn't
> be hard at all to create an initial import. It would probably take
> someone a week to whip off a simple webapp to edit apt documents online
> which would be very cool.
> 
> > Rafal
> > 
> > 
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