On Tuesday 09 April 2013 19:57:47 Zoltán Balogh wrote: > On 04/09/2013 06:01 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: > > On Apr 09, 2013, at 12:37 PM, Ma Xiaojun wrote: > >> I guess we should not require painful DEB packaging any more, or we > >> wrapper it nicely. > > > > It's certainly true that learning how to package for Debian/Ubuntu is a > > big > > hurdle for developers. It seemed a big mystery to me when I started to > > learn how to do it. Now that I know how to package and have helped > > others get started, I'm even more convinced that it's too high of a > > hurdle to require of developers. > > > > Learning how to package the Debian way is worth the investment if you are > > an Ubuntu and/or Debian developer (e.g. a core-dev, PPU, or DD), but IMO > > it's too much if you just want to build apps for the platform. > > > > -Barry > > Actually it is not that difficult and we have good tools. The pkgme, > pbuilder and the dozen of wrapper apps make packaging simple. > > But regardless how good wrappers and how well automated toolchain we > invent to make it even more simple the developer still need to have the > information for the control file and at least have some idea what > license is the best for the application. > > With 5-6 commands most of the projects can be packaged and cross built. > > The real problem is that all these tools and toolchains can be > configured in each and every development environment differently ... a > clean installation of the pbuilder/cowbuilder-dist is easy to use and we > can offer a cross compiler and packaging solution based on these tools. > Bit what if the developer has already a working pbuilder installed and > custom configured on the development environment? How to inject our > tools to that? The same way setting up a chroot is easy, but how to > maintain and troubleshoot it? > > These hiding landmines are a lot. That is why creating wrapper tools and > hide these packaging and build tools behind a smart IDE is not something > what just works.
Well, worked quite well (for me) when doing N9 app development with QtCreator. Can we do something similar? Cheers, Albert > > > That is why I came to the conclusion that if a developer is working on a > project what needs C++, native Qt, platform APIs, crosscompilation then > the developer need to understand the Ubuntu/Debian packaging at least on > the basic level. > > For QML/JS apps we will offer a fully automatic and bullet proof > packaging solution. But for that the crossbuilder chroot with all the > debian/control magic is clearly overkill. > > bzoltan
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