"Robert Berman" <berma...@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message news:1257261606.29483.23.ca...@bermanrl-desktop...

In [69]: l1=[(0,0)] * 4

In [70]: l1
Out[70]: [(0, 0), (0, 0), (0, 0), (0, 0)]

In [71]: l1[2][0]
Out[71]: 0

In [72]: l1[2][0] = 3
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
TypeError                                 Traceback (most recent call
last)

/home/bermanrl/<ipython console> in <module>()

TypeError: 'tuple' object does not support item assignment

First question, is the error referring to the assignment (3) or the
index [2][0]. I think it is the index but if that is the case why does
l1[2][0] produce the value assigned to that location and not the same
error message.

Second question, I do know that l1[2] = 3,1 will work. Does this mean I
must know the value of both items in l1[2] before I change either value.
I guess the correct question is how do I change or set the value of
l1[0][1] when I specifically mean the second item of an element of a 2D
array?

I have read numerous explanations of this problem thanks to Google; but
no real explanation of setting of one element of the pair without
setting the second element of the pair as well.

Tuples are read-only, so you can't change just one element of a tuple:

   >>> x=0,0
   >>> x
   (0, 0)
   >>> x[0]=1
   Traceback (most recent call last):
     File "<interactive input>", line 1, in <module>
   TypeError: 'tuple' object does not support item assignment

You can, however, replace the whole thing, as you found:

   >>> x=1,1
   >>> x
   (1, 1)

To do what you want, you a list of lists, not a list of tuples, but there is a gotcha. This syntax:

   >>> L=[[0,0]]*4
   >>> L
   [[0, 0], [0, 0], [0, 0], [0, 0]]

Produces a list of the *same* list object, so modifying one modifies all:

   >>> L[2][0]=1
   >>> L
   [[1, 0], [1, 0], [1, 0], [1, 0]]

Use a list comprehension to create lists of lists, where each list is a *new* list:

   >>> L = [[0,0] for i in range(4)]
   >>> L
   [[0, 0], [0, 0], [0, 0], [0, 0]]
   >>> L[2][0] = 1
   >>> L
   [[0, 0], [0, 0], [1, 0], [0, 0]]

-Mark


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