Michael Langford schrieb: >> However, Debian is known for stability and security, right? I don't know >> if I should install things without apt in a production environment, so I >> first have to ask my guru if it's alright. > > The *point* of buildout is that the entire installation is *local* to > the application. There is no change system wide, just for the > application that is running. This is *much* safer than using the > system package manager. Its like running a standalone exe like putty > on windows, versus installing a microsoft product. > > --Michael >
We're already considering to use the cheese shop for for all our Python stuff! Again, thanks a lot for the hint! - Paul > > >> Michael Langford schrieb: >>> It's a distribution issue. As far as what I've found as having cutting >>> edge (or even reasonably fresh) python packages in your package >>> manager is dictated by the distro, who vary wildly in this. >>> >>> Debian SID at times> All the Ubuntus > Debian SID at times> Fedora >>> Core > Debian testing > Debian stable >>> >>> This is the #1 reason I use ubuntu on servers right now. And if the >>> above is wrong now, these are generally feelings about a small sample >>> set over a period of time. I really have just gone all Kubuntu/Xubuntu >>> where I can these days. >>> >>> I will suggest you look into learning eggs, cheese shop and >>> easy_install as an alternative to OS based package management for >>> python. I was an awesome presentation by Brandon Rhodes Mill about >>> Buildout at PyAtl a couple weeks ago. It automagically downloads all >>> the eggs you need. You just create a setup.py and a quick config file, >>> and check those in with your source. When you run a command when you >>> start developing on a checkout, it pulls down all the eggs you need to >>> work with that checkout from the cheeshop, putting them in a project >>> local directory, which is then prepended to the python search path for >>> that project. >>> >>> This means site-packages and you don't have fights when you install on >>> multiple system who may need other past versions of modules. Buildout >>> also gets the right version of python on the machine ( in a local >>> directory again ) and is compatible with system where you don't have >>> root access. >>> >>> Buildout was originally written by the Zope people I believe, but has >>> been made independent of zope so all of us non-zope people can use it. >>> >>> --Michael >>> >>> Cheese Shop: www.python.org/pypi >>> Monty Python Cheese Shop Skit: www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3KBuQHHKx0 >>> Buildout: www.python.org/pypi/zc.buildout >>> More about Eggs: http://peak.telecommunity.com/DevCenter/PythonEggs >>> PyAtl (where presumably his talk will be posted): http://pyatl.org/ >>> >>> On Jan 23, 2008 11:01 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> I decided to install Python2.5 on the server machine to save me the time >>>> for low-level debugging >;) but it doesn't find the MySQLdb module... >>>> >>>> I searched through aptitude - the only thing I find is MySQLdb for Py2.4 >>>> ... What's happening here? >>>> >>>> I have to say that the client PC (on which my script runs fine with 2.5) >>>> has Ubuntu installed - can it be that the MySQLdb module is behind in >>>> Debian? >>>> >>>> Sorry for going off topic - if you guys don't want that here can move >>>> the problem to the Debian list - but maybe someone here knows about the >>>> status of the packages...? >>>> >>>> - Paul >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org >>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor >>>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor >> > > > _______________________________________________ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
