> However, Debian is known for stability and security, right? I don't know
> if I should install things without apt in a production environment, so I
> first have to ask my guru if it's alright.
The *point* of buildout is that the entire installation is *local* to
the application. There is no change system wide, just for the
application that is running. This is *much* safer than using the
system package manager. Its like running a standalone exe like putty
on windows, versus installing a microsoft product.
--Michael
> Michael Langford schrieb:
> > It's a distribution issue. As far as what I've found as having cutting
> > edge (or even reasonably fresh) python packages in your package
> > manager is dictated by the distro, who vary wildly in this.
> >
> > Debian SID at times> All the Ubuntus > Debian SID at times> Fedora
> > Core > Debian testing > Debian stable
> >
> > This is the #1 reason I use ubuntu on servers right now. And if the
> > above is wrong now, these are generally feelings about a small sample
> > set over a period of time. I really have just gone all Kubuntu/Xubuntu
> > where I can these days.
> >
> > I will suggest you look into learning eggs, cheese shop and
> > easy_install as an alternative to OS based package management for
> > python. I was an awesome presentation by Brandon Rhodes Mill about
> > Buildout at PyAtl a couple weeks ago. It automagically downloads all
> > the eggs you need. You just create a setup.py and a quick config file,
> > and check those in with your source. When you run a command when you
> > start developing on a checkout, it pulls down all the eggs you need to
> > work with that checkout from the cheeshop, putting them in a project
> > local directory, which is then prepended to the python search path for
> > that project.
> >
> > This means site-packages and you don't have fights when you install on
> > multiple system who may need other past versions of modules. Buildout
> > also gets the right version of python on the machine ( in a local
> > directory again ) and is compatible with system where you don't have
> > root access.
> >
> > Buildout was originally written by the Zope people I believe, but has
> > been made independent of zope so all of us non-zope people can use it.
> >
> > --Michael
> >
> > Cheese Shop: www.python.org/pypi
> > Monty Python Cheese Shop Skit: www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3KBuQHHKx0
> > Buildout: www.python.org/pypi/zc.buildout
> > More about Eggs: http://peak.telecommunity.com/DevCenter/PythonEggs
> > PyAtl (where presumably his talk will be posted): http://pyatl.org/
> >
> > On Jan 23, 2008 11:01 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> I decided to install Python2.5 on the server machine to save me the time
> >> for low-level debugging >;) but it doesn't find the MySQLdb module...
> >>
> >> I searched through aptitude - the only thing I find is MySQLdb for Py2.4
> >> ... What's happening here?
> >>
> >> I have to say that the client PC (on which my script runs fine with 2.5)
> >> has Ubuntu installed - can it be that the MySQLdb module is behind in
> >> Debian?
> >>
> >> Sorry for going off topic - if you guys don't want that here can move
> >> the problem to the Debian list - but maybe someone here knows about the
> >> status of the packages...?
> >>
> >> - Paul
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