On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 10:46:32PM -0500, grarpamp wrote: > So many sites that we all use are now blacklisting Tor. It's unclear > whether it is via their use of tools that blindly utilize blacklists, > or if they are making a conscious choice to deny Tor users. As far > as I'm concerned, we are all legitimate users of their services and > quite frankly, I've had enough... exactly the same as I'm sure you > have all had. >
Contacting Project Honey Pot has been on my TODO list for a while now with the hope that some progress can be made, such as they handle exit nodes specially. The anti-spam list ecosystem is much larger than Project Honey Pot, but it would be a start. > What can we do, as a collective social entity, to put an end to > this madness? It is not as if we, as Tor users, present any more > of a load upon their help/fraud/abuse desks than the wider open > internet as a whole, even when if perhaps adjusted for market share > of source IP's. So what can we do? > Paul's mail was very much on point with this. However, Tor has a perception/PR problem for this. ipset[0] is a prime example of this. Regarding its listing of numerous blacklists and explicitly the list of Tor exit nodes it says "...it certainly reduces comment spam on a WordPress blog and there have been claims from websites owners that their servers had been attacked through Tor." [0] http://trick77.com/2013/10/12/using-ipset-to-ban-bad-ip-addresses-from-project-honey-pot-spamhaus-tor-openbl-and-more/ > This is in re: Hulu (whis is presumably authenticated)... but really, > it applies to any service which we, the legitimate users of Tor, > are denied access to. > > It has simply gone too far and we should be putting effort into > reversing this trend by interacting with these deniers to become > permitters. > > What do we do? Basically what Lunar said. A more active and vocal community may help. Passively accepting the current situation doesn't seem to be working. If the services don't know that legitimate Tor users exist in a significant quantity and that they are worthwhile to support, then there's no incentive to try. - Matt -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
