On 10/03/2013 11:33 PM, shadowOps07 wrote: > Was the VPN located in the US? If not, then FBI doesn't have any > jurisdiction outside of US.
On p. 14 of UlbrichtCriminalComplaint.pdf, there's reference to a "Mutual Legal Assistance Treaty". > On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 6:54 PM, Roger Dingledine <a...@mit.edu> wrote: > >> On Thu, Oct 03, 2013 at 08:58:57PM +0000, mirimir wrote: >>> So they did have the server before they knew who he was. >> >> Careful there -- while I assume they didn't lie in their affidavit, it's >> quite reasonable to assume that they investigated all sorts of things, >> all sorts of ways, and then afterwards chose to write down exactly the >> set of facts that when lined up in the correct order makes it look like >> a clean solid case. >> >> It's a slippery slope from there to 'parallel construction', but I think >> it's standard practice to start with some leads and use them to find >> more solid facts, and it's also standard practice to not mention all >> your leads in your affidavit. >> >> To be more concrete, their job here is to link the guy to the website. >> So if they had a pretty good idea of who the guy was, but not enough >> evidence to bust him, it makes sense to me that they would go find one >> of the servers, collect all the evidence they can from it, and hope >> to find something specific that points back at the guy. And who knows, >> maybe they did that several times before they found something they liked >> enough to build a case from it. >> >> Your theory that "he was sold out by one of his administrators" also >> fits fine here -- the administrators pointed to the guy but then they >> needed to build a solid-looking case. >> >>> We also knew >>> that he was sold out by his VPN provider. Hopefully, the identity of >>> that VPN provider will come out soon. >> >> Why? So everybody can abandon that VPN and move to a different one that >> also responds to subpoenas but hasn't been written about in a high-profile >> court case yet? :) >> >> --Roger >> >> -- >> tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org >> To unsusbscribe or change other settings go to >> https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk >> -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsusbscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
