You should send email from a separate server in a different location and have legal protection. Keep it in a Europe country that would help...
Sent from my Android so do not expect a fast, long, or perfect response... On Sep 17, 2013 5:45 PM, "Conrad Rockenhaus" <con...@rockenhaus.com> wrote: > Nathan, > > That's exactly what I'm doing with this project. > > Internet<---->MTAs(Just running Postfix with ABSOLUTELY no logging) also > running TOR as a (client only)<------>Data Server(Running as Hidden Service > only, no logging)<----->TOR End User > > Basically, to the normal Internet, it will just be a plain jane email > address that is coming from a plain jane MTA. The MTAs will not know the > IP address of the data servers because they will only deliver the email via > TORified SMTP to the data server. > > Of course, standard SPAM limiting measures will be in place (limits on > number of addressees in a message, limits on how many messages can be sent > per minute, per hour, etc.) > > Now I've got the MTAs, I'm just perfecting the configuration and trying to > figure out a good domain name to use for the service (I would rather not > use networks.rockenhaus.com, which is the placeholder for now.) I also > need to come up with a secondary domain name in case people start blocking > emails from the domain. > > I'm funding the initial proof of concept. What I'll be asking for is > either a honor system payment (so those who can't afford to pay can still > use the service) or a donation based model, and also try to fund the > service with tor based web hosting (which I doubt will bring in any needed > cash) and ask for donations of bandwidth and servers. > > The primary main objective, heh, is to ensure a failsafe system to provide > freedom of expression, freedom of government intrusion, and freedom of > ensuring access to an experimental anonymous email system that won't turn > over anything on it's servers, as if authorities seize MTAs, they won't > find any evidence on there, and if they seize a data server, there's > another data server standing by to automatically fail over (not putting the > eggs in one basket like tormail.) The only lines of compromise are > sniffing the traffic in the MTAs, most TOR users are capable of utilizing > encryption for their emails anyway. > > Sorry for the long response. I just wanted to paint a picture of how it > would work. > > Now, for those who are curious about a guy who appeared out of no where and > started building this - I've been lurking for a while, and I didn't want to > say anything until I had the resources to build this. If you want further > information about me please feel free to contact me and I'll let you know > who I am and why I am very pro free speech and pro tor, even when it's used > to personally attack me. > > Thanks, > > Rock > > > On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Nathan Suchy < > theusernameiwantista...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > If your willing to use a few servers one could be a Tor Node and one > could > > be an Email Relay which seemed normal and custom code your project.. > > > > Sent from my Android so do not expect a fast, long, or perfect > response... > > On Sep 17, 2013 10:26 AM, "Conrad Rockenhaus" <con...@rockenhaus.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Thanks. The service that I'm starting up is connecting to external mtas > > > that aren't tor exit nodes. So basically, the way tormail was set up > to > > a > > > degree. Starting out small until so I can prove the viability so people > > > will start using and hopefully donating either bandwidth or etc to keep > > it > > > alive. > > > > > > There's going to be one major difference between this project and > tormail > > > though - the data/web backend won't be in one place. More on that > later, > > > I'm trying to get the proof of concept off the ground. > > > > > > -Rock > > > On Sep 17, 2013 10:11 AM, "Harold Naparst" <har...@alum.mit.edu> > wrote: > > > > > > > > http://eq4xhu6y7nmemcb2.onion/squirrelmail > > > > > > > > > is almost online. Working out some kinks and need to get the > bigger > > > MTAs > > > > > set up. However, I need to find a good automated sign up script > > > because > > > > I > > > > > don't feel like coding one. Anyone know of a good one? I've tried > > the > > > > > Google and came up empty handed. > > > > > > > > Rock, you can check out mine: http://secmailmzz5xe4do.onion > > > > > > > > I haven't had time to add a CAPTCHA yet, because I'm more interested > in > > > > working on getting mail sent to non-onion sites to use the tor > network > > > > without leaking DNS and so on. The registration script depends on > how > > > you > > > > are storing your login information, and there are a lot of ways to do > > > that. > > > > I'm using vpopmail, and I hacked vqregister, which is mentioned in > the > > > > squirrelmail plugins page. Vqregister is truly horrible, and I had > to > > > hack > > > > it pretty badly to get it to work. If you want it, though, you can > > have > > > > it. But probably you're using something else (like > > > postfix/postfixadmin), > > > > and so the architecture won't work for you. > > > > > > > > This hidden mail service will probably only be useful for mail to > other > > > > .onion sites, because most large e-mail providers block e-mail from > tor > > > > exit nodes, as I found out during testing. > > > > > > > > Harold > > > > -- > > > > tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org > > > > To unsusbscribe or change other settings go to > > > > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk > > > > > > > -- > > > tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org > > > To unsusbscribe or change other settings go to > > > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk > > > > > -- > > tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org > > To unsusbscribe or change other settings go to > > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk > > > -- > tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org > To unsusbscribe or change other settings go to > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk > -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsusbscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
