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On 05/12/2012 03:16 PM, Elena Johnson wrote:
> 
> Much appreciated!
> 
> Yes, can anyone suggest email providers that will protect privacy and still 
> work easily with Tor (? that don't require j's). 
> 
>> Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 22:04:58 -0500
>> From: joebtfs...@gmx.com
>> To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org
>> Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Basic questions from new user but...
>>
>> On 5/9/2012 6:56 PM, Elena Johnson wrote:
>>> I have a feeling other newbies might benefit. 3 questions below (if 
>>> tor-talk is not appropriate for these questions, PLEASE let me know what 
>>> the appropriate contact is) .
>>>
>>> I have read the FAQ's, much documentation, and searched the broader web but 
>>> still have questions about browsing the internet with Tor (I'm using the 
>>> whole Tor Browser Bundle):
>>>
>>> 1) Can I ANONYMOUSLY allow scripts for hotmail, gmail and yahoo mail using 
>>> Tor browser?
>>>        -  hotmail -  I can’t sign in, I get the message:
>>>            "Windows Live ID requires JavaScript to sign in."
>>>            If I allow the script, use https and HTML and sign in then,
>>>                 I can use NoScript to go through a series of "allowing 
>>> scripts" from the following,
>>>                 but I still can't open the email
>>>                      https://snt130.mail.live.com
>>>                      https://secure.shared.live.com
>>>                      https://secure.wlxrs.com
>>>
>>>         - gmail: Google requires scripts to create account (I WAS able to 
>>> access HTML email
>>>           without  scripts - very very useful and good, THANKS)
>>>
>>> 2) If I allow scripts ONE TIME, does that blow my anonymity for ALL TIME or 
>>> just during that browsing session. In other words, is the info then stored 
>>> somewhere that can be retroactively analyzed to reveal my IP address?
>>>
>>> -----------------------------------------------------
>>> I had this experience on the Tor site:
>>> - I'm going through the Tor FAQ page and try to link to:
>>>
>>>           irc channel
>>>
>>>           tor-talk@lists.torproject.org
>>>
>>>           h...@rt.torproject.org
>>>
>>>     -I'm assuming Tor is SAFE but for each of these, I get the MESSAGE:
>>>
>>>           "Load external content?
>>>
>>>           An external application is needed to handle:
>>>
>>>           mailto:h...@rt.torproject.org (etc.)
>>>
>>>           NOTE: External applications are NOT Tor safe by default and can 
>>> unmask you!
>>>
>>>           If this file is untrusted, you should either save it to view 
>>> while offline or in a VM,
>>>
>>>           or consider using a transparent Tor proxy like Tails LiveCD or 
>>> torsocks."
>>>
>>>      - I'm guessing that YES! i can trust that I can use whatever
>>> "external application" will allow me to access these Tor support
>>> services, BUT I'M NOT ABSOLUTELY SURE. This leads to my third question:
>>>
>>> 3) Can I ANONYMOUSLY load "external content" using an "external 
>>> application"? Does the answer depend on THE SITE I am browsing, the 
>>> particulars of the "external application" needed, and the specific 
>>> "external content"?
>>>      
>>
>> Welcome!
>> I'm not the foremost expert on Tor & external apps.  Others can chime in 
>> or correct my suggestions.  You ARE using the Tor browser bundle - TBB - 
>> aren't you?
>> 1) If you really want privacy / anonymity, maybe Live Mail, Gmail 
>> shouldn't be your choice - at least when using Tor.  The companies 
>> behind them are noted for a lot of privacy invasions.  A lot of mail 
>> providers seem to require js, but maybe others can suggest some (or 
>> methods) that don't require it.  I'm quite sure some providers don't 
>> require js.
>>
>> 2) AFAIK just for that session.  But, if it's for an email acct that you 
>> tried to create anonymously thru Tor - IF - say Gmail, tied you to a 
>> real IP address & provider, then you don't have much anonymity for that 
>> acct from then on.  That's assuming anyone, including Gmail cares to 
>> pursue it.  I'm assuming it warning you about accessing 
>> h...@rt.torproject.org means using your mail client.  In their default 
>> state, email clients CAN leak info about you.
>>
>> Which external content (type) & which application is it trying to use?  
>> It does make a difference.  Yes, some can leak certain data.  Some apps 
>> can be "torrified," to lesser or greater extents.  Instructions used to 
>> be on the Tor documentation site for diff apps, but may have been 
>> removed.  May also be wiki articles.
>>
>> 3) See ans. # 2.  It's an "it all depends" question that comes up 
>> often.  It's not so much the site (unless they use advanced tracking 
>> techniques & you have js enabled, etc.), as the external app being 
>> used.  In general, heed the warning about loading external content, if 
>> true anonymity is desired.   The application could matter because it 
>> dictates the type of application needed.  Part of it depends on what 
>> you're trying to conceal from whom.    NSA?  You may be screwed.  You'll 
>> have to research IF the apps needed (& specific one you use) can be 
>> torrified or leaks worse than another.  Probably look into Tails or 
>> torsocks.
>>
>> I've probably created more questions, but the upshot is, you have to 
>> educate yourself when it comes to using external apps & Tor.
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