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--SiNA On 05/12/2012 03:16 PM, Elena Johnson wrote: > > Much appreciated! > > Yes, can anyone suggest email providers that will protect privacy and still > work easily with Tor (? that don't require j's). > >> Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 22:04:58 -0500 >> From: joebtfs...@gmx.com >> To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org >> Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Basic questions from new user but... >> >> On 5/9/2012 6:56 PM, Elena Johnson wrote: >>> I have a feeling other newbies might benefit. 3 questions below (if >>> tor-talk is not appropriate for these questions, PLEASE let me know what >>> the appropriate contact is) . >>> >>> I have read the FAQ's, much documentation, and searched the broader web but >>> still have questions about browsing the internet with Tor (I'm using the >>> whole Tor Browser Bundle): >>> >>> 1) Can I ANONYMOUSLY allow scripts for hotmail, gmail and yahoo mail using >>> Tor browser? >>> - hotmail - I can’t sign in, I get the message: >>> "Windows Live ID requires JavaScript to sign in." >>> If I allow the script, use https and HTML and sign in then, >>> I can use NoScript to go through a series of "allowing >>> scripts" from the following, >>> but I still can't open the email >>> https://snt130.mail.live.com >>> https://secure.shared.live.com >>> https://secure.wlxrs.com >>> >>> - gmail: Google requires scripts to create account (I WAS able to >>> access HTML email >>> without scripts - very very useful and good, THANKS) >>> >>> 2) If I allow scripts ONE TIME, does that blow my anonymity for ALL TIME or >>> just during that browsing session. In other words, is the info then stored >>> somewhere that can be retroactively analyzed to reveal my IP address? >>> >>> ----------------------------------------------------- >>> I had this experience on the Tor site: >>> - I'm going through the Tor FAQ page and try to link to: >>> >>> irc channel >>> >>> tor-talk@lists.torproject.org >>> >>> h...@rt.torproject.org >>> >>> -I'm assuming Tor is SAFE but for each of these, I get the MESSAGE: >>> >>> "Load external content? >>> >>> An external application is needed to handle: >>> >>> mailto:h...@rt.torproject.org (etc.) >>> >>> NOTE: External applications are NOT Tor safe by default and can >>> unmask you! >>> >>> If this file is untrusted, you should either save it to view >>> while offline or in a VM, >>> >>> or consider using a transparent Tor proxy like Tails LiveCD or >>> torsocks." >>> >>> - I'm guessing that YES! i can trust that I can use whatever >>> "external application" will allow me to access these Tor support >>> services, BUT I'M NOT ABSOLUTELY SURE. This leads to my third question: >>> >>> 3) Can I ANONYMOUSLY load "external content" using an "external >>> application"? Does the answer depend on THE SITE I am browsing, the >>> particulars of the "external application" needed, and the specific >>> "external content"? >>> >> >> Welcome! >> I'm not the foremost expert on Tor & external apps. Others can chime in >> or correct my suggestions. You ARE using the Tor browser bundle - TBB - >> aren't you? >> 1) If you really want privacy / anonymity, maybe Live Mail, Gmail >> shouldn't be your choice - at least when using Tor. The companies >> behind them are noted for a lot of privacy invasions. A lot of mail >> providers seem to require js, but maybe others can suggest some (or >> methods) that don't require it. I'm quite sure some providers don't >> require js. >> >> 2) AFAIK just for that session. But, if it's for an email acct that you >> tried to create anonymously thru Tor - IF - say Gmail, tied you to a >> real IP address & provider, then you don't have much anonymity for that >> acct from then on. That's assuming anyone, including Gmail cares to >> pursue it. I'm assuming it warning you about accessing >> h...@rt.torproject.org means using your mail client. In their default >> state, email clients CAN leak info about you. >> >> Which external content (type) & which application is it trying to use? >> It does make a difference. Yes, some can leak certain data. Some apps >> can be "torrified," to lesser or greater extents. Instructions used to >> be on the Tor documentation site for diff apps, but may have been >> removed. May also be wiki articles. >> >> 3) See ans. # 2. It's an "it all depends" question that comes up >> often. It's not so much the site (unless they use advanced tracking >> techniques & you have js enabled, etc.), as the external app being >> used. In general, heed the warning about loading external content, if >> true anonymity is desired. The application could matter because it >> dictates the type of application needed. Part of it depends on what >> you're trying to conceal from whom. NSA? You may be screwed. You'll >> have to research IF the apps needed (& specific one you use) can be >> torrified or leaks worse than another. Probably look into Tails or >> torsocks. >> >> I've probably created more questions, but the upshot is, you have to >> educate yourself when it comes to using external apps & Tor. >> _______________________________________________ >> tor-talk mailing list >> tor-talk@lists.torproject.org >> https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk > > _______________________________________________ > tor-talk mailing list > tor-talk@lists.torproject.org > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk -- First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win ~ Mahatma Gandhi _______________________________________________ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
