Much appreciated! Yes, can anyone suggest email providers that will protect privacy and still work easily with Tor (? that don't require j's).
> Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 22:04:58 -0500 > From: joebtfs...@gmx.com > To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org > Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Basic questions from new user but... > > On 5/9/2012 6:56 PM, Elena Johnson wrote: > > I have a feeling other newbies might benefit. 3 questions below (if > > tor-talk is not appropriate for these questions, PLEASE let me know what > > the appropriate contact is) . > > > > I have read the FAQ's, much documentation, and searched the broader web but > > still have questions about browsing the internet with Tor (I'm using the > > whole Tor Browser Bundle): > > > > 1) Can I ANONYMOUSLY allow scripts for hotmail, gmail and yahoo mail using > > Tor browser? > > - hotmail - I can’t sign in, I get the message: > > "Windows Live ID requires JavaScript to sign in." > > If I allow the script, use https and HTML and sign in then, > > I can use NoScript to go through a series of "allowing > > scripts" from the following, > > but I still can't open the email > > https://snt130.mail.live.com > > https://secure.shared.live.com > > https://secure.wlxrs.com > > > > - gmail: Google requires scripts to create account (I WAS able to > > access HTML email > > without scripts - very very useful and good, THANKS) > > > > 2) If I allow scripts ONE TIME, does that blow my anonymity for ALL TIME or > > just during that browsing session. In other words, is the info then stored > > somewhere that can be retroactively analyzed to reveal my IP address? > > > > ----------------------------------------------------- > > I had this experience on the Tor site: > > - I'm going through the Tor FAQ page and try to link to: > > > > irc channel > > > > tor-talk@lists.torproject.org > > > > h...@rt.torproject.org > > > > -I'm assuming Tor is SAFE but for each of these, I get the MESSAGE: > > > > "Load external content? > > > > An external application is needed to handle: > > > > mailto:h...@rt.torproject.org (etc.) > > > > NOTE: External applications are NOT Tor safe by default and can > > unmask you! > > > > If this file is untrusted, you should either save it to view > > while offline or in a VM, > > > > or consider using a transparent Tor proxy like Tails LiveCD or > > torsocks." > > > > - I'm guessing that YES! i can trust that I can use whatever > > "external application" will allow me to access these Tor support > > services, BUT I'M NOT ABSOLUTELY SURE. This leads to my third question: > > > > 3) Can I ANONYMOUSLY load "external content" using an "external > > application"? Does the answer depend on THE SITE I am browsing, the > > particulars of the "external application" needed, and the specific > > "external content"? > > > > Welcome! > I'm not the foremost expert on Tor & external apps. Others can chime in > or correct my suggestions. You ARE using the Tor browser bundle - TBB - > aren't you? > 1) If you really want privacy / anonymity, maybe Live Mail, Gmail > shouldn't be your choice - at least when using Tor. The companies > behind them are noted for a lot of privacy invasions. A lot of mail > providers seem to require js, but maybe others can suggest some (or > methods) that don't require it. I'm quite sure some providers don't > require js. > > 2) AFAIK just for that session. But, if it's for an email acct that you > tried to create anonymously thru Tor - IF - say Gmail, tied you to a > real IP address & provider, then you don't have much anonymity for that > acct from then on. That's assuming anyone, including Gmail cares to > pursue it. I'm assuming it warning you about accessing > h...@rt.torproject.org means using your mail client. In their default > state, email clients CAN leak info about you. > > Which external content (type) & which application is it trying to use? > It does make a difference. Yes, some can leak certain data. Some apps > can be "torrified," to lesser or greater extents. Instructions used to > be on the Tor documentation site for diff apps, but may have been > removed. May also be wiki articles. > > 3) See ans. # 2. It's an "it all depends" question that comes up > often. It's not so much the site (unless they use advanced tracking > techniques & you have js enabled, etc.), as the external app being > used. In general, heed the warning about loading external content, if > true anonymity is desired. The application could matter because it > dictates the type of application needed. Part of it depends on what > you're trying to conceal from whom. NSA? You may be screwed. You'll > have to research IF the apps needed (& specific one you use) can be > torrified or leaks worse than another. Probably look into Tails or > torsocks. > > I've probably created more questions, but the upshot is, you have to > educate yourself when it comes to using external apps & Tor. > _______________________________________________ > tor-talk mailing list > tor-talk@lists.torproject.org > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk _______________________________________________ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
