On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 20:57, grarpamp <grarp...@gmail.com> wrote: > Going with the USA idea: what if the FBI, in the > normal course of business, calls up all their local cable/dsl/fiber/cell > providers and has a few lines run to each office and outhouse > nationwide.
I think that it is important to differentiate national security and law enforcement here. It is unlikely that agencies like the FBI and its worldwide counterparts can break Tor anonymity. For instance, public in USA is particularly hysterical about issues such as pedophilia, yet FBI is apparently unable to locate members of pedophile networks who use Tor — see http://dee.su/uploads/baal.html. National security agencies, on the other hand, have to think about the “big picture”, and would not put their methods of work in danger of disclosure by running software that they don't trust (Tor) in locations that they don't completely control (geographically variated commercial data centers), or indulge in otherwise risky behavior (routing tricks and the like, which can be discovered by regular employees). > There is this thread for starters: > http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/Jun-2009/msg00253.html Although I doubt that US agencies had anything to do with that relays number spike, it could be a simple attempt to aid opposition in Iran (i.e., not to introduce rogue nodes that leak information for later analysis). -- Maxim Kammerer Liberté Linux (discussion / support: http://dee.su/liberte-contribute) _______________________________________________ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
